AA on paired flop
Effective stacks 50bb
CO Villain opens to 3.5bb, BTN folds, SB Hero 3bets A♥A♣K♦2♥ to 11.5bb, BB folds, CO calls.
Flop: 7♠7♦5♠ (24bb)
Question 1: With this SPR, is the optimal play just to pot flop/gii? Lets say the optimal play is to cbet smaller like 1/3, if our cbet gets raised, can we ever fold our AA with no draw?
Question 2: If the effective stacks become 100bb, how will our play change on the flop?
In generally, paired flop just feels hard to navigate as preflop 3bettor because our hands are often faceup as AA and after our cbet gets called/raised, our hand strength becomes very marginal and it's tough to continue.
Even when we have AA with additional equity like FD/SD it often feels like we're drawing thin because even if we hit our draws we still have to be worried about fullhouses.
So how would you approach a spot like this? Appreciate any advice
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at SPR 1.5 it is fine to get it in, it is probably a bit more "scary" to bet 1/3 and get reraised pot, but also hard to fold... I think betting pot scares away more hands.
With 100bb, definitely not get it in that easily. Fold to a check raise, and how much to lead depends on many factors...
I would just pot it - there's really not much to think about at this stack depth given your equity vs his preflop range. I also think if you bet say 10 bb vs potting it's a similar result - just too short to navigate this any different. At 100 bb things change a lot - I think I'd start by checking on 775 and see what he does.
Here’s how this works. Always think of a board texture in terms of our whole range. So mathematically for 1.5SPR it’s without a doubt unexploitable to rip in all your aces: your opponent just doesn’t flop enough trips for that to ever be bad.
That said if that is our strategy what do we do with our non AA hands on this board? If we just pot our AA then how can we play any bluffs? So betting a small size becomes more appealing for our range as a whole.
Of course you could also just pot the least playable aces and cbet small with higher playability aces and bluffs. That’s a reasonable strat.
But the real reason you guys don’t like to bet small is because you don’t like facing tough decisions: what to do vs a raise? How to proceed on the turn? And so ripping it takes any difficult decision out of the equation.
Of course if you want to really be good at poker you use the tools available to us today and delve into how to respond vs raises and vs calls + playing the turn.
Here’s how this works. Always think of a board texture in terms of our whole range. So mathematically for 1.5SPR it’s without a doubt unexploitable to rip in all your aces: your opponent just doesn’t flop enough trips for that to ever be bad.
That said if that is our strategy what do we do with our non AA hands on this board? If we just pot our AA then how can we play any bluffs? So betting a small size becomes more appealing for our range a
Very well put!
Bet 9 bbs and snap call a raise. You unblock the nfd; if you had the A spades you could think about bet-folding against certain types (you can still do that here you just have to have a very strong read) or not betting at all, but would probably still just bet.
Effective stacks 50bb
CO Villain opens to 3.5bb, BTN folds, SB Hero 3bets A♥A♣K♦2♥ to 11.5bb, BB folds, CO calls.
Flop: 7♠7♦5♠ (24bb)
Question 1: With this SPR, is the optimal play just to pot flop/gii? Lets say the optimal play is to cbet smaller like 1/3, if our cbet gets raised, can we ever fold our AA with no draw?
Question 2: If the effective stacks become 100bb, how will our play change on the flop?
In generally, paired flop just feels hard to na
Forget paired flops. Isn't this every flop where you don't hit top set or the nut flush draw (or occasionally some other draw or trips with your supporting cards) as the 3bettor from the blinds? Omaha is hard.
This is 50 bb spot in a 3-bet spot as an aggressor and the board is paired. You can study a spot like these and create an okay-good enough strategy like in 30 minutes that you can autopilot trough.
This is one of the easiest spots there is.
This hand is Pot/gii imo. You need to have a more "polarized" 1/3 range as well but this AA combo is too mediocre to be in there. With BDFD I would 1/3 this.
