Request to Recuse ganstaman from Trans-Identity Discussion

Request to Recuse ganstaman from Trans-Identity Discussion

I’m writing to request that ganstaman be recused from moderating the ongoing discussion on trans-identity. While I fully support the right of every individual to be respected and treated with dignity, I believe that the role of a moderator should be to facilitate open and honest discussion rather than enforce a particular viewpoint (especially one lacking in evidence).

In this case, the moderator has made it clear that any dissent from the idea that trans identities are unquestionably valid will be met with infractions or bans:

I'm not asking you to accept that trans people are really trans, but I will infract and ban for you saying otherwise. It's not just false, it's also hurtful and turns these threads into flaming garbage instead of discussions about real issues impacting real people.

This approach not only stifles meaningful debate but also precludes the possibility of discussing the underlying issues in a way that respects differing perspectives. Forcing participants to agree with a particular stance under threat of punitive action is essentially begging the question and shutting down any chance for genuine dialogue.

Furthermore, conflating critical discussion with hateful speech does a disservice to both the conversation and the individuals involved. There is a significant difference between engaging in a reasoned discussion about complex issues and engaging in actual hate speech. By equating the two, ganstaman is not only censoring valid points of view but also undermining the purpose of the forum as a space for robust and nuanced discourse. What's the point of having this thread in the first place if the moderator has already decided on the answer? I am not the only person to notice and have an issue with this, either.

This kind of authoritarian moderation approach can be perceived as fascist, as it seeks to suppress free speech and enforce a singular perspective without allowing for the open exchange of ideas. It’s critical that we maintain the integrity of our discussions by ensuring that all voices are heard and that moderators facilitate rather than dictate the direction of the conversation. I'd prefer the moderator respond to actual incidents of flaming/trolling than delete my posts under the guise of preventing such a thing from being catalyzed.

I urge the admins to consider these points and take appropriate action to recuse ganstaman from moderating this particular discussion. A more balanced approach is essential for fostering a healthy and productive debate on this important topic. At the very least, I'd love to know whether 2+2 is officially captured by the gender cult so I can kick rocks and fully disavow the board.

Cheers,
Phresh / -Skeme-

11 August 2024 at 08:13 AM
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Calm down


by Neil S P

Calm down Punk

fixed


bye sammy. haha


Sammy contained to politics. What could go wrong?


There are no posters in this thread Sammy couldn't knock out with a single punch


Idiot


Sammy, I did bust you out of the politics forum. A lot of people were banned in the process. I just wondered how you felt about that.


by marknfw P

Idiot

Sammy always liked you, you seem cool.


by Bobo Fett P

Ruh-roh...


one of these days you and I are gonna have words..... Punk


Also, you took the 1st quote out of context on purpose, dickhead

by Sammy2bullets P

You guys are like super angry all the time. From an outsiders pov that reads most threads here without posting, I have to say, that in my opinion most of you regs seem like somewhat intelligent people, but at the same time behave like idiots. Calm the **** down, dumbasses!


by Sammy2bullets P

Sammy always liked you, you seem cool.


I missed you when you were gone.


So I was banned for a week for "hate speech" for correctly referring to an XY male as a male by Crossnerd, who is an unhinged ideolog. Okay, so I guess that answers my question as to whether 2+2 Publishing is completely captured by this gender cult as they've appointed this person to ban their members for adhering to reality.


Can I please get an admin to confirm that TwoPlusTwo views the following as hate speech that requires banning me for a full week:

Khalif is a male with a DSD. He absolutely doesn't have Swyer syndrome as people with Swyer aren't virilized. He's clearly went through male puberty.

This is reality, by the way. Imane Khelif is a virilized male with XY chromosomes, i.e., a male. Why am I banned for a week because this unstable person can't handle reality? What is going on here?


I doubt our Ukrainian-Canadian overlords care that much about that forum at all.


by Phresh P

Can I please get an admin to confirm that TwoPlusTwo views the following as hate speech that requires banning me for a full week:

This is reality, by the way. Imane Khelif is a virilized male with XY chromosomes, i.e., a male. Why am I banned for a week because this unstable person can't handle reality? What is going on here?

You were probably banned for 'misgendering', which goes against some American neo-religion, and also perhaps for not having a satisfactory cited source for your claim, since Khelif's actual status is (possibly as a result of considerable obfuscatory PR work by Khelif's team) still unclear.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequ...


Imagine hating on sex ambiguous (for a lack of a better term) people so much that you have numerous posts about the moderation on a forum cause "u mad bro".

I, personally, would love to have discussions about professional trans/intersex athletes in an honest conversation, but it's a dog whistle for abhorrent right-winged behavior.


by Neil S P

I doubt our Ukrainian-Canadian overlords care that much about that forum at all.

i often assume they forgot they purchased it


by rickroll P

i often assume they forgot they purchased it

Far as I can tell they bought NVG, and everything else was a throw-in.


Ideologue*


by GusJohnsonGOAT P

Imagine hating on sex ambiguous (for a lack of a better term) people so much that you have numerous posts about the moderation on a forum cause "u mad bro".

I, personally, would love to have discussions about professional trans/intersex athletes in an honest conversation, but it's a dog whistle for abhorrent right-winged behavior.


I find that slightly offensive. Racism isn't a "right wing" thing.


Aren't there trans hating forums where you can go and be with your people and just leave the rest of us alone? Please, don't answer. I don't care, just a suggestion.


by Phresh P

So I was banned for a week for "hate speech" for correctly referring to an XY male as a male by Crossnerd, who is an unhinged ideolog. Okay, so I guess that answers my question as to whether 2+2 Publishing is completely captured by this gender cult as they've appointed this person to ban their members for adhering to reality.

2+2 Publishing has a stake in this conversation?

Do tell.


Hate speech is still speech...


Calls someone an "unhinged ideologue"

Posts speculative "reality" based on incomplete information that allows him to present unhinged ideologue rants as objective reality


It's what they do.


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