What are the lowest rake casino cash games in the world?

What are the lowest rake casino cash games in the world?

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone knows where the lowest rake in low stakes cash games in the world is? I'm thinking of moving country and play a lot of 1/3 and 2/5. I've been thinking of moving to Vancouver/Montreal/Barcelona, but all of those have relatively high rake in the cash games. Does anyone know any major casinos where the rake is reasonable?

TIA

16 May 2024 at 07:52 AM
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There are poker rooms in the US which don't have rake at all, at least in Oregon and Texas. Instead you pay a daily fee for entry. At the Portland venue where I occasionally play, you pay $20 for entry and then play as long as you want to. Years ago I played once at a room in Ohio which did this, and I believe there is a new place in Kentucky doing the same thing.


by Artigian P

Lowest rake in the world is probably Wiesbaden in Germany. They take 2 euros per pot, no matter how big the pot or what the stakes are. They have 2/4 and 5/10 there. The only thing is that they expect 1% of the pot as a tip, so if the pot 5k, they want 50 euros.

The next best rake is Northern England. In Liverpool, for example, they take 5% capped at £5 + £1 for promotions. But they only have 1/2 there. However: those games play super deep a

There are still a good number of places in the US which have less than $5 rake. The rooms in Washington take $4 (they mostly have significant promo drops as well, but they're good at getting that money back to the players). Some rooms also have a time charge in higher limit games which usually ends up cheaper than paying rake.


We can try to open the rake v seat fee conversation here .. it may or may not take off. May already be another older thread on that too. IMO 'fee' is just another word for 'rake', it's just that the amount is fixed, max and min, for all to see before they sit down (out of necessity to possibly get around Gaming regulations).

Poker Clubs are starting to pop up where they can 'get away' with it. My understanding is that Ohio's clubs (at least 4) have been around long before Texas brought them to the YouTube mainstream. I had not heard of Oregon's rooms, but Louisville, KY has had a fledgling room for maybe a year and now also has a room that Chris Moneymaker is behind. Michigan had a room that was probably legal, but was 'raided' by Gaming and the founder doesn't have the funds to run it through the courts to prove otherewise.

Indiana's charity poker system is very liberal, basically uncapped, but is on the rake system.

Some of the new poker Apps are charging 'to open and run/rent' the table and by the hand. Is this rake or a 'fee'?


Based on one number shown above .. this Player is -EV going to the club since his hourly rake is well below the hourly fee(s).

We use the English language .. many words can mean close to the same thing. If money that could be used to buy chips is going towards something else or slowing being removed from the game it's an expense that Recs probably don't consider, Regs discuss on days their losing overall and an invisible expense that Pros should consider but is a wash as far as their net income (different thread for that one). GL


by answer20 P


We use the English language .. many words can mean close to the same thing. If money that could be used to buy chips is going towards something else or slowing being removed from the game it's an expense that Recs probably don't consider, Regs discuss on days their losing overall and an invisible expense that Pros should consider but is a wash as far as their net income (different thread for that one). GL

But you use the English language a bit differently than others. You capitalize many nouns in a way which is not standard in English. Are you a native German speaker?


While I'm slightly German, much less than expected via 23andMe, I'm just capitalizing poker terms for a touch more emphasis, like an actual proper noun would be. I know it's not correct as is my use of ' .. ' within my paragraphs instead of just double spaced new sentences or commas. English was always a weak point in my education and I'm still famous for my relentless use of run-on sentences by a couple teachers! GL


by chillrob P

There are still a good number of places in the US which have less than $5 rake. The rooms in Washington take $4 (they mostly have significant promo drops as well, but they're good at getting that money back to the players). Some rooms also have a time charge in higher limit games which usually ends up cheaper than paying rake.

Which rooms in Washington are you referring to?


by Telemakus P

Which rooms in Washington are you referring to?

I play often at Last Frontier in La Center, about half an hour north of Portland and occasionally at Fortune Poker in Renton, around 15 minutes south of Seattle.
There are several other smaller poker rooms in the suburbs of Seattle, I've been to a few. There are a few others scattered around the state which I have never been to.


by chillrob P

I play often at Last Frontier in La Center, about half an hour north of Portland and occasionally at Fortune Poker in Renton, around 15 minutes south of Seattle.
There are several other smaller poker rooms in the suburbs of Seattle, I've been to a few. There are a few others scattered around the state which I have never been to.

Wow really? That's intriguing as I'd heard that NLHE cash games are illegal in Washington state. A few old timers where I play said there there were limit holdem games there, but that was all. So perhaps the law changed recently?

https://www.tarah.org/2015/08/24/how-was...

The article above from 2015 seems to confirm that NLHE was banned in Washington back then too.


I didn't say anything about no-limit poker, I mostly play limit.

True NLH is not allowed. The maximum bet by law is $300.
Some of the rooms' websites even say they have NL, but what they really have is $3-$300 spread limit.

In 1/2 or 1/3 games with a maximum $400 buy in, they're going to play almost exactly like true NLH though.
How often does someone bet or raise more than $300 in those levels of NLH anyway?

Fortune also has 2/5 games, which I never play, but I imagine it plays a bit different than true NL. Still if someone wanted to play 2/5 NL I'm sure they'd be almost as happy playing that game.


by chillrob P

I didn't say anything about no-limit poker, I mostly play limit.

True NLH is not allowed. The maximum bet by law is $300.
Some of the rooms' websites even say they have NL, but what they really have is $3-$300 spread limit.

In 1/2 or 1/3 games with a maximum $400 buy in, they're going to play almost exactly like true NLH though.
How often does someone bet or raise more than $300 in those levels of NLH anyway?

Fortune also has 2/5 games, which I

Ah okay, that makes sense then - thanks for the info.


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