2024 Fantasy Football Thread
Welcome to the 2024 fantasy season, where I'm officially addicted to best ball. I've been drafting since the end of January. Through 95 drafts, my exposures are below. The player order is based on current ADP. Some of these ADPs have been quite fluid over the last 3 months, with FAs and rookies moving the most. Most of my exposures are structurally driven, rather than player take driven. Especially at this point in the game, pre-draft.
But there are some players I simply couldn't avoid going heavy on, like McBride and Andrews in the 5th round. I'm actually quite heavy all of the top TEs, minus LaPorta and Kincaid. I also tried to make sure I had at least 1 TE by the end of round 8, with Ferguson being the last of the group.
Also took approaches like attacking Nabers and Odunze harder than MHJ, at their relative prices.
What do we like and not like?
Rookie season is also upon us. Redraft is still 3.5 months away from heating up, but there will be rookie drafts, dynasty startups, and best ball drafts leading up until then.
Good luck to all, and may injuries and variance be kind.
so i'm 2-0 and i think i need some QB help with williams not panning out so far and Stafford losing all his weapons. tried to get Carr but my waiver prio was too low.
FA options are like: Darnold vs. Hou, Herbert vs. Pit, Watson vs NYG, Minshew vs Car
which FA are we feeling?
i'm thinking about trading for CJ Stroud to an owner that hasn't started him either game, not sure what that value is. someone also dropped TUA because he already ha
I'd pick up Danold. He is playing well and is playing in a good game environment against Houston. The light bulb may have finally come on for him or he may turn back into a pumpkin. I'd ride the wave while things are good. He may be even better later in the year when he gets Hock back and the WR's are all healthy. It might be a happy accident that you missed on Carr
Caleb will probably get it going but you can't trust Stafford right now.
Minshew is interesting. They wanted to run the ball this year but they can't. They may just start throwing it a ton. Bowers is the real deal.
I can see better days for Herbert but not against Pitt. He also has an ankle injury.
Watson played a little better last week but he's a pass for me. He may end up getting suspended for the new stuff that has come out.
It's Kareem Hunt time in KC.
Shane Waldron got a bad wrap in Seattle and it seems to be carrying over to Chicago. I don't like to dunk on coaches because I don't have the full context of the situation. That being said, you look at what Clint Kubiak is doing in NO and it makes you wonder if Waldron's time in the NFL has passed him by.
As a bears fan I would cry with joy if they hired Clint Kubiak or honestly any Shanny disciple to be their HC
Non - Fantasy question
I was laughed out of the room by my friends for this football take:
Nico Collins is a top 6-7 wr and I’d rather have him than Amon Ra (in real life not just fantasy although I might want that in fantasy as well). Am I crazy for thinking this?
I’m going to also tell TarHeels how wrong I was for saying Nico was just ok in our debate last year haha
Non - Fantasy question
I was laughed out of the room by my friends for this football take:
Nico Collins is a top 6-7 wr and I’d rather have him than Amon Ra (in real life not just fantasy although I might want that in fantasy as well). Am I crazy for thinking this?
I’m going to also tell TarHeels how wrong I was for saying Nico was just ok in our debate last year haha
Nico is an ascending superstar but I wouldn't put him ahead of ARSB just yet. I think we will be seeing some Tank Dell games where Nico maybe doesn't dominate like he has. ARSB is an established elite WR. If Nico continues to be an elite target getter on a consistent basis he will join ARSB. You are not crazy for putting Nico ahead of ARSB just maybe premature.
As a bears fan I would cry with joy if they hired Clint Kubiak or honestly any Shanny disciple to be their HC
I think it'll be between you and the Jags in trying to land the hottest offensive coach available next offseason. The good news is Klint and Ben Johnson will likely both be available. It's still early, but I expect those two to be the leaders for the top jobs.
If the Saints were smart, they'd fire Dennis Allen and keep Klint if it comes down to it, but it almost never goes down like that.
Speaking of Shanny disciples.
Non - Fantasy question
I was laughed out of the room by my friends for this football take:
Nico Collins is a top 6-7 wr and I’d rather have him than Amon Ra (in real life not just fantasy although I might want that in fantasy as well). Am I crazy for thinking this?
I’m going to also tell TarHeels how wrong I was for saying Nico was just ok in our debate last year haha
The funny thing is the debate was between Nico and Puka and in hindsight the answer was just both lol. I hope Puka still looks the same once he's healthy.
I think Nico is definitely in the top 10 of current WRs at the very least. He still seems to have a bad stigma from his first two seasons, especially for non-hardcore football followers. Two games of 100+ yards so far with his target competition and the way he produces is super impressive. Tough to compare him to ARSB since they both play different roles, but the answer to that debate is probably also just both haha. But Nico likely has a higher overall ceiling as an IRL player than ARSB.
Based on what I’ve read and heard, WR has some strong talent at the top and RB is both strong and deep. This RB class should be much better than 2024.
QB and TE, not so much right now. Although, as always, QB will be over drafted IRL chasing upside. But none of the prospects are high end.
But I don’t follow college football prospects that closely until draft season.
I’m not sure I’d take 2 firsts for Nico, but 10 tm
So many of the recent highly touted QB classes have turned out to be terrible, which is why the NFL has such a QB problem that will probably only get worse in the coming years. Too early on 2024 guys though. Maybe the 2025 will turn out ok even though it looks underwhelming.
PSA to anyone using Sleeper's auto sub feature. If you use a player as a potential auto sub, that player is locked for the rest of the week, even if the questionable player plays. I.e., anyone who used a player as an auto sub for Achane last night cannot use that designated auto sub player for any other starting spots the rest of this week. They're locked. Dumb.
Sleeper update - They no longer lock someone chosen as an autosub. There was an announcement when I opened the app this afternoon.
Looks like Kupp is avoiding IR.
So many of the recent highly touted QB classes have turned out to be terrible, which is why the NFL has such a QB problem that will probably only get worse in the coming years. Too early on 2024 guys though. Maybe the 2025 will turn out ok even though it looks underwhelming.
Not sure I agree with the premise that the nfl has a qb problem.
Guys like Goff/Purdy are considered middle of the pack QBs. That seems like a big improvement over historic middle of the pack QBs. Add in Baker/Geno/Carr and the amount of competent QBs in the league seems better to me than ever before.
I think defenses have gotten extremely good at defending the pass though
Most common 2 and 3 player pairs in BBM, which can probably be extrapolated to most other contests with a decent confidence.
Anyone have anything smart to say about Baker Mayfield? Dynasty and redraft takes welcome.
Short heater? What do we think? He started coming on last year too
Not really someone I’m playing in 1qb or even considering playing unless I’m streaming qb and he has an insane matchup
Obv a must roster in 2qb, probably would just play him as a 2nd qb when matchups dictate
Not sure I agree with the premise that the nfl has a qb problem.
Guys like Goff/Purdy are considered middle of the pack QBs. That seems like a big improvement over historic middle of the pack QBs. Add in Baker/Geno/Carr and the amount of competent QBs in the league seems better to me than ever before.
I think defenses have gotten extremely good at defending the pass though
Fair. Too early to make that claim. Baker and Carr in better situations show they still belong in the "good" category. Some of the young guys will have to pan out though. Richardson, CW, JJM, Maye, Daniels, Nix. Otherwise those teams will be in included in the bottom tier (Carolina, NYG, etc). Then Rodgers, Stafford, possibly Tua will be out of the league soon.
Anyone have anything smart to say about Baker Mayfield? Dynasty and redraft takes welcome.
Short heater? What do we think? He started coming on last year too
Baker had two good years and two bad years on a bad Browns team.
He was bad on a terrible Carolina team.
He looked great with his short stint with the Rams
He has looked very good with the Bucs.
The common denominator is he has looked good on good teams.
So many of the recent highly touted QB classes have turned out to be terrible, which is why the NFL has such a QB problem that will probably only get worse in the coming years. Too early on 2024 guys though. Maybe the 2025 will turn out ok even though it looks underwhelming.
The NFL does have a bit of a QB problem. The problem is that we aren't seeing as much elite QB play and we are seeing more dreadful QB play. Just look at some of the QB matchups this week...Yikes! We have QB's coming back from major injuries. We have numerous year one or two QB's who may end up being good but aren't trending in that direction yet. Defenses are forcing teams to matriculate the ball downfield in the hopes of increasing turnovers. They are doing this by not giving up the big plays.
The 2025 draft class doesn't seem great.
Non - Fantasy question
I was laughed out of the room by my friends for this football take:
Nico Collins is a top 6-7 wr and I’d rather have him than Amon Ra (in real life not just fantasy although I might want that in fantasy as well). Am I crazy for thinking this?
I’m going to also tell TarHeels how wrong I was for saying Nico was just ok in our debate last year haha
Interesting question. As U of Mich and Lions fan I have seen plenty of both of them, hard to compare an X and Z receiver but Collins is bigger and faster so its easy to see why someone would prefer him. St Brown wasn't blessed with the physical attributes of a great receiver but he's made himself great with focus, hard work and conditioning. In case of a tie I'm taking the dawg - his game kinda reminds me of Hines Ward.
Non - Fantasy question
I was laughed out of the room by my friends for this football take:
Nico Collins is a top 6-7 wr and I’d rather have him than Amon Ra (in real life not just fantasy although I might want that in fantasy as well). Am I crazy for thinking this?
I’m going to also tell TarHeels how wrong I was for saying Nico was just ok in our debate last year haha
What do Nico's fancy metrics like average separation and stuff look like compared to everyone in the league? Dude has literally the 2nd coming of Peyton Manning throwing him the ball which could skew stuff with all other things being equal. Doesn't look like he has a hands issue though.
It's funny listening to the hive debate whether you should pick up Steele or Perine when the answer is Hunt.
It’s still none of them. Pacheco was an RB2 getting a majority of the work.
Also, if they really preferred Hunt, they would have already chosen him over keeping Steele and signing Perine.
The only one I’d take a flyer on is Steele bc he’s an unknown. Most likely nobody consolidates and it’s not particularly a playable backfield but I think we know what Perine and Hunt are at this point in their career
There’s also this.
What do Nico's fancy metrics like average separation and stuff look like compared to everyone in the league? Dude has literally the 2nd coming of Peyton Manning throwing him the ball which could skew stuff with all other things being equal. Doesn't look like he has a hands issue though.
He had a 3.11 yprr with a rookie qb (I know he’s elite but he was like around the 10th best qb last year, so not much different than Goff, he obv has a ton of upside to be top 3)
3.11 was second to reek and anything over 3 is obviously insane
That’s the only stat I can remember of his from last year
He had a 3.11 yprr with a rookie qb (I know he’s elite but he was like around the 10th best qb last year, so not much different than Goff, he obv has a ton of upside to be top 3)
3.11 was second to reek and anything over 3 is obviously insane
That’s the only stat I can remember of his from last year
As much as you love Nico, double it and it's close to where I stand on CJ and his talent. Goff isn't in the same galaxy as him but I'm being a bit hyperbolic. Also not sure CJ will ever be a perennial top 3 fantasy guy as he probably has at best Aaron Rodgers type rushing upside but he's absolutely elite in reading coverage, anticipation and accuracy.
I'm a boomer with advanced metrics, yprr I'm guessing is yards per route run which I guess is mainly consistently making big gains? I guess it would be hard to argue he's not consistently beating coverage and creating separation then. It's probably splitting hairs but doubt he has those numbers with Goff as his QB. Just saying level of QB can be elevating him but he's tied to CJ for years to come so it's all good.
But back to irl football off the top of my head I'd take AJ Brown, Tyreek, Davonte, CD, JJ, Jamarr, MHJ and probably Garret and that's where Nico starts to blend in but Waddle and Nabors could realistically be put ahead of him. Not bad company for a late 3rd round pick.
