Between two hammerheads
1/3 NLHE 9 handed.
V1 - Don't play much with him but he's a winning player. Probably about 8 BB/hr. TAG style. I would say he's not overly creative post-flop, I don't know his game really well but he's overly tight so I usually just overfold to him and I've never been in a situation where I had premium and he was interested so my opens like ATo, A8s, KJs all hit the muck when he 3-bets me. I think he's about my skill level but more disciplined and has no problem folding for 3 hours and doesn't tilt. Covers.
V2 - Tries to play full time but isn't super good and clicks buttons a bit. Doesn't have the discipline. Still a winning player but probably for 4-5BB/hr. I have a lot of hours with him and we generally avoid each other. He's TAG. VPIP about 20%. Wider than V1 and loves hands like 75s, 63s, 25s as late position calls and even 3-bets sometimes. He sees me as tight and more straightforward. 400$ eff stack.
H - has about 500$ not sure how the V's view me.
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V1 straddles UTG to 6, H opens HJ to 20 with A♥ J♥ off about 500$ stack, V2 calls BTN off 400$, V1 calls UTG. 3-ways in the middle.
Flop 60 - A♠ 5♥ 3♣
V1 checks, H bets 25, V2 calls, V1 folds
Turn 110 - K♦
H bets 55, V2 jams for 355 total, Hero?
11 Replies
Easy fold, no natural bluffs for opponent, they shouldn’t be bluffing on this board very often anyway
Without any prior reads, easy fold. V2 is reraising into us on a card that is supposed to hit our range, and his call from the flop still makes him uncapped (he can be calling with 42 or A5 or sets at some frequency intending to let you bluff). This makes their range so strong that we need to severely limit and maybe fold our one-pair bluff catchers.
However, if you've seen signs where they would be taking this call flop/rr allin turn line with some draws like 54 or 64 or overvaluing hands like AT/A9, then this is a fine call though still a bit borderline...
Baluga Theorem fold but V reps very very thin and we have all AK, AA, KK. Very odd line from V and you'd think he would just take H to value town with his 55/33.
V described as TAG and this is a strange line from a TAG. I'm probably folding and tightening my opening range when V has BTN, although H did nothing wrong here.
Check flop vs 2 good players. Betting is fine vs fish.
As played turn is an instamuck
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you can easily have AK or a set here so unless villain does not have a functioning brain there is no reason to call.
i dont like the turn bet either. you have a 2 street hand and on this board id prefer the value to be on the river. flop bet is also questionable as there arent many ways for worse hand to call the flop. if you do bet the flop it should be very small like 1/4-1/3 pot.
Sorry mistyped OP. Turn brought in a FD that wasn't the A or my suit. Say K♣
People are generally less inclined to bluff when the turn favours (or looks like it favours) your range. Most of the time they'll show up with sets that are hoping to stack your AK before an action-killing card comes.
I limp in.
I probably lean to checking this bone dry board. If betting, I'm betting smaller.
I probably check the turn. As played I just fold. I'm not looking to get in my stack postflop in SPR 7 pots with just TPmehK, especially when our opponent has no semi-bluffs.
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PRE - raise bigger over the straddle, with a competent V behind us on the BTN. Make it at least $25.
FLOP - check when we're multi-way and in-between opponents. Look to make a delayed c-bet on the turn if BTN checks back and UTG checks again. Put in a check-raise if BTN stabs small. Flat call if BTN bets big, or if UTG stabs turn.
If you must c-bet, size down to 1/4 to 1/3 pot, $15 or $20, at most. We want to induce opponents to raise with their better hands, and call with their worse hands.
TURN - although the K looks like a good card for our range, we're in danger of running out of value if we bet, especially if we bet big, precisely because the AK-high board is so good for our range as the PFR. What are we expecting to call? AQ? AT?
Understanding the K was the Kc, adding the BDFD, we should probably slow down and check, to induce V to bet. His bet size will likely telegraph the strength of his hand.
He's not going to bet many worse hands for value or protection, but he may bluff, or check to take a free card, allowing us to bet again on brick rivers. Obviously we're not ready to fold to any reasonable bet size if we check and he bets.
If we want to barrel, we should probably be sizing down, to induce raises from hands that need protection, or sizing up, to push him off a draw. Betting 1/2 pot isn't terrible, but smaller will induce V to tip his hand strength more, and bigger will get him to fold some better hands.
With a hand that doesn't want to face a raise, and may not be best, I probably size down, not up, with our turn bet. Betting 1/2 pot looks like we're weak and don't want to over-commit to a marginal hand.
As played, the turn is an easy fold. It's very unlikely he's jamming ATcc, or any worse AXcc, and even if he is jamming those hands, he's going to suck out around 30% of the time. We're just not doing all that well against a range that isn't afraid we turned top 2P.
The recurring theme with all your recent hand histories is that you're over-playing thin value, c-betting too big, c-betting when you should be checking, and telegraphing the strength of your hand with some of your bet sizes.
Result:
Spoiler
I folded and he said he hit some kind of AX FD hand but he didn't show.
