First hand in an MTT
Hi all,
just busted on the first hand of an MTT (109$ buy-in) and was wondering to what degree I should have played differently.
9 handed, folds to HJ who min opens to 2BB, we are all 100BB deep.
I am on the Button with QJss. I just call thinking i am in position and my hand goes well MW. We get heads up after blinds fold.
FLOP
Qh2s4d
He bets around 2bb, I raise to 5, he reclicks to 8. I just call, putting him on AQ, KQ.
TURN
4s
Now with a FD and some chance he is bluffing or betting worse, i am almost decided to get it in.
He bets half pot, I jam, he calls and shows 22. FD was obviously dead, had like 4 outs, so massive fail.
Where did this hand go wrong or should one just take such chances to go deeper in tournaments?
Many thanks!
3 Replies
Preflop is fine. Your hand flop really well.
On the flop we just cant raise because the preflop raiser hase the nut advantage.
He will has AQ KK and AA in his range and we would have 3bet them preflop.
In position, just never raise if somebody bet. Control the size of the pot. You can bet later on.
After we made the mistake we just get to good odds to call and crack hands like AQ and KQ like you said.
Turn
Again, we do we want to raise. We just get the right price to call and see a river.
River
If we dont hit the river and see a big bet we would always fold this hand.
With him 3betting on the flop he will be very strong. I never seen somebody 3betting flop with hands weaker then yours
I would 3 bet pre here and fold to a 4!. Idk JQss is easier to win against 1 villain when in position vs letting sb and bb call a super small raise. As hand played, we win easily with a cbet on boards like K83 or A96 etc against specific hand.
Hmm flop why raise flop? Stupid. Turn- what is villian calling with that doesn’t have us beat? Very stupid. You are only called by great hands when you jam turn. If villian is going to fold Q-10 suited and worse here- what is point of jamming. Only hands calling us are sets, A4, maybe odd play 45suited, etc. like your turn action doesn’t accomplish much good.
How to play hand- don’t be passive. 3 bet pre. Cbet flop. And decide when villian either raises flop cbet or turn. I would even consider checking flop with QJ here as QJ on Q24. Only hands that call might be some worse Qx maybe and then kq and aq. Btw QJs on this flop- I don’t think you want to get chips in with this hand w/ 15spr. It’s really bad
I like your pre-flop call OTB with QJs.
Raising the flop is OK (he can have a gutter, AK, Ax that paired the board, etc.) if you are willing to fold to the 3-bet. Otherwise just call original bet. So now we are playing a bigger pot with a BDFD and top pair 3rd best kicker... Which is not quite a disaster but absolutely not worth doing.
On the turn after thinking you are behind on the flop, you shove. This is the disaster. Your reasoning is that he might be behind (like QT). Nobody would 3-bet the flop with QT. Similarly, why would he 3-bet OOP on the flop with a BDFD? Your sizing (the shove) is fine if you have the nuts (or close) and there are a lot of draws out there that can beat you. It is also fine if we are bluffing without blocking any of the draws and assuming there were a bunch of draws. But that isn't the case here.
Once he bets 11 bb raising to 33 bb's is virtually pot committing with like 89 bb's effective stack. So don't raise and don't shove.
On the river once we miss we can fold to a largish bet.
One thing to learn from this is that online when somebody minraises their 3 bet it is inducing a call. This is similar in live games. When a player 3-bets much lower than 3x it is almost always an inducement to call. To continue on later streets you have to improve in a way that they can't. So if the turn had been a Q just understand that you may still be behind when he bets the turn.
