Omaha Journey to High Stakes

Playing a couple more of the satellites, right after late reg someone limp folds the CO to a 1.1bb jam. Literally 0.1bb more to call. Is this really the state of GGpoker these days?

Keep busting in massive tournament spots haven’t made a decent score ever in 3 years of grinding… whatever going to get through this downswing. Basically only losing at 2/5 and tournaments recently, but still in 10k downswing…

Just wondering if I'm going to lose every flip until busto again

A classic way to end a PLO pg&c.

Have you considered taking a break when going through a losing stretch? I found taking a short break to do healthy things in my life, dropping down a stake and upping my volume while studying a lot, and then resuming my primary stake after I regained my confidence (or at least positive self talk) helped a great deal to mitigate the volatility of full time PLO.

Also sidenote but if you're aiming to handle the swings better, exposing yourself to high ev spots that can go wrong in plo mtts might not be the best decision. Grinding 100bb online cash only has so much that can affect your psyche whereas adding even higher, longer term variance that actually has a lower hourly ev is hurting both your bottom line and your peace of mind.

YMMV.

I have dropped down stakes and studying a ton rn. Agree I hate playing MTTs, have been convinced to play them because of how soft they are by peers. But honestly it's so dumb I just am nowhere near the long term in them and down probably 30k+ because I brick every $500+ event I play and only ship $100 25 person events.

Want to handle the swings better but getting frustrated just part of the game I guess.

Also insanely tilted today because trying to deposit crypto onto an ipoker skin for rakeback, and get fkd by coinbase restricting my account, realized I could withdraw to btc on GG, and converted crypto back... Got charged $100 in fees for literally 5 minutes of trying to move my own money around. All this happening while I have a -2k day today again because I lose every flip but one vs the same stupid brainless nit.

Mostly frustrated with how shitty shot taking can be for making money. Failed shot take multiple times, now I have actually lost money recently despite prolly winning 50+ buyins in the last couple weeks.

From my understanding you have access to fenced sites due to your residence in a Canadian province right? I have heard that those are much softer than globally accessible sites. Game liquidity at $1/$2 PLO is pretty good on most networks; why not find 2-3 sites and focus on them rather than moving money around? Simple questions from the outside looking in.

I have mostly been playing on ACR, Bovada and Coinpoker and am very happy with the midstakes+ action on them. A student of mine has access to fenced sites and they are even softer than Bodog. Not sure why you're messing around with the high rake environment of GG or dealing with a network like ipoker that has such a historically bad rap when you have (if I understand correctly) these other options available to you.

Yeah, have been looking at the local fenced site quite a bit recently and games seem to be completely dead there unfortunately. But when they run the games are awesome.

RN just Global and iPoker with 50% rakeback trying to get enough 1/2 tables. Not playing cash on GG, just was playing MTTs but honestly just going to cool it a bit on the MTTs. I know iPoker has a bad rap, but the rakeback deal on this skin is so good if the games are beatable at a good clip I feel like it's worth sinking like 30bi into or smth.

ACR ignition and coin all solid for MS afaik yeah.

Final thoughts before heading to bed -- I found that practicing on ACR and generating most of my EV on Bovada and Betonline was the most effective way for me to prepare for eventually moving to play 500z on stars. There is a lot of value to getting to play against competent players at $.50/$1 on ACR, effectively risking a small amount to improve quickly when coupled with studying with a solver/distilled solver tool and then having consistently soft sites with good game liquidity to put my hours into. It worked for me ca. 2018 and from what I can see of the state of games now across these networks, not much has changed. In fact games seem softer, counter intuitively. In a macro sense poker has a liquidity injection from crypto peaking so while each network will have its own rec pool cyclically shift up and down in terms of rec players' account balances able to be put into play, you are experiencing an industry wide local maxima for networks being softer now than they would have been during the previous crypto bear market, if covid hadn't happened. Something to digest. My takeaway in your shoes would be to up my volume while possible although when you are playing 200pl it isn't as big a deal as in higher stakes, lower liquidity environments. To stretch the idea further, some pros only play during the series and take the rest of the year off as finding games they can beat for 150+/hr isn't possible in their hometowns and the amount of EV they can generate during the WSOP is more than enough for their financial goals each year. Online poker has a similar concept applied year to year based on external recreational players' available liquidity and when you are trying to break into the industry some years will be respectively easier or harder depending on the macro environment. With right now being a relatively favorable one.

Yeah I've heard this year is probably going to be the best since covid for online poker. Appreciate the thoughtful feedback. A little scared to play without good rakeback as I find it's a powerful way to reduce variance, especially at 200s. That being said, ignition and BOL great sites still, just need to play a bunch and not tilt out of my mind. Doesn't matter where I play that much as long as I'm not getting cheated everywhere.

Just gonna be a BRM nit using 200BI BRM for now and forever, or even more conservative… honestly the swings in PLO are huge even with a large winrate, and need a lot of ammo for if (when) we get cheated. Was using 100BI but 200BI just seems a lot safer. Yes I’m giving up a lot of EV doing this. But the most -ev thing I can do is not have my own action (selling or staking). Can still have an hourly that’s like 5x-7x what I could get otherwise.

So back to 100s for now, but should be back at 200s in a week or so.

200 seems like overkill when playing low stakes. Why not just move up/down quicker? Sucks to cut your hourly in half when I'm guessing your winrate is pretty similar across .5/1 and 1/2.

Yeah to be honest it sucks, but I’m just terrified to find backing again or whatever. I’m 23 with low expenses and no family to take care of yet, and I can probably make ~$100/h USD playing 100s (9 tables across global ipoker and ignition) + rakeback. Converted to CAD this is just pretty comfortable, I don’t want to risk it. I don’t forget doing asbestos removal 5 days a week trying to save up a roll years ago. Dropping to 50s is so much worse than dropping 200s to 100s. Much easier to grind when you could drop multiple stakes and still be printing.

Overall this week I’d give myself a B+ on study, and C- on play.

Study was pretty good, finding spots that are very difficult to defend is fun, gives me good ideas for in game.

Play was rough, wasn’t in a great mental state and even if I wasn’t punting I didn’t have great reasons for the things I was doing, especially in big pots.

PLO = religion

variance = guru

surrender to variance = strength (BRM: 200bi+ = hands pass through you easier)

its always more work than you thought

the more successful you become, the more distractions will be thrown at you.

enjoy the process, especially the pain.

"it aint about how hard you can hit. its about how hard you can get hit.. and still keep going." - Rocky Balboa

i root for all those for whom PLO has trampled them over and ripped out their guts,... and still keep smiling.

As general rule you should only send money from a CEX to private wallet. If you're depositing on poker site you should preferably send from burner wallet instead of your primary one. Sending from CEX to gambling site is just a huge no no. If fees are high send at off peak hours or use chains with lower gas fees instead of BTC/ETH. I don't know what chain iPoker supports but most sites support other crypto besides BTC/ETH.

Yeah I know, I tried to send to exodus and account still got restricted.

Yeah the “hands pass through you easier” is so true

Deleted social media’s off my phone, along with gf. Trying to figure out how I can balance relationships with school with poker and it’s really tough. But removing these types of distractions is going to be helpful I think.

Studying going well, and the week is off to a solid start as far as play goes.

meditate every morning = day passes thru you.

distractions are variance

variance = guru

it all becomes meaningless in the face of your truth.

then you can just be your Self.

or something. gl

This is sick. Appreciate you sharing. NICE

I’m posting this Omaha question because this is the only Omaha thread I follow and you seem pretty good what are your thoughts.

4567 (4 and 6 are spades). Game is 5/10/20 live. UTG raises 75.

We are utg+1 there’s like 7 at table or something what do you do?

Snap fold right?

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These ss rundown can be 3bet like 300bb+ deep I think, shorter can probably just call. Was interesting at like 350bb you 3bet as IP 9865ss KKT5ss stuff like this. I guess maybe not UTG vs +1 but could be.

Good results all week studying and playing, didn’t play yesterday but did get study in.

Just hot knife through buttering 200s rn, won’t be at 500s again for a little bit ig but it’s ok.

Thanks a lot

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clearly getting cheated on ignition again, down 15BI so far today hopefully things turn around. Withdrawing ignition and just focusing on global for now... Small stakes PLO is in such a horrible place right now... Cheating is literally everywhere at this stake (200) and regs aren't equipped with the ability to find cheaters or credibility to have ppl actually listen to them. People made fun of me in this thread for complaining about cheaters but at some point you have to just listen... Case in point the person who found the 200PLO ACR bots after jnandez is an established 2k reg. Not a 200s player. Not even in a massive downswing I'm crushing these stakes but it's still so frustrating to have mediocre results on some sites watching myself get swindled out of my money. Higher stakes much safer rn. Anyways grinding just Global until this site isn't as good and then will hopefully have money for higher stakes online or will pivot to live.

To anybody struggling at these stakes rn, focus on not getting screwed over by cheaters. The regs are not that good, the fish are plentiful, and games run consistently. Just don't get obliterated by cheaters and you will be able to climb.

down about 25BI today not winning any all-ins makes it difficult to make money in this stupid game... People tilt getting it in with AKTTsss 200bb deep vs my aces on 972... I knew what was going to happen before it happened LOL! Literally every 5 minutes I am getting stacked twice this is honestly hilarious. Gotta love global poker.