ex-President Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at low-info Boomers like my religions aunts. I have two questions:
a) Is anyone here who supports Trump bothered by lies like this?
b) Does anyone know what he's even talking about here? Like is there some grain of truth that he's embellishing on bigly?
Cope harder.
Fwiw, I'm not a Republican and Trump isn't Republican. He's a populist. I don't like a lot of things he does and I actually wish he was more aggressive but he's the only force that can keep the current globalists from burning down the country which they are INTENTIONALLY doing at an accelerated rate with money printing, immigration, culture war, etc.... No one ITT has a grasp on the power structure dynamics of our country nor u
Super high IQ stuff here, bro.
Conspiracy theorists have a really inflated view of their own intelligence and perspicacity.
many politicians are populists , and virtually everyone who wins elections is, in all parties and in all countries.
it just became a meme to call some specific platform on the right populism while promising state paid housing or healthcare or college or pension (which is 101 populism) isn't.
populism is telling the masses their problems aren't caused by their own actions and the state can solve them. it's negating that in life you are individually responsible for most of what happens to you good or bad, and then identifying the inimical causes and promising a solution for those.
Cope harder.
Fwiw, I'm not a Republican and Trump isn't Republican. He's a populist. I don't like a lot of things he does and I actually wish he was more aggressive but he's the only force that can keep the current globalists from burning down the country which they are INTENTIONALLY doing at an accelerated rate with money printing, immigration, culture war, etc.... No one ITT has a grasp on the power structure dynamics of our country nor u
Brother if you think I'm the one coping then you are even more delusional then you come across in your manic outburst today
We are at the "none of you understand, but I do" phase of cope , in case you need a map for your journey.
Cope harder.
Fwiw, I'm not a Republican and Trump isn't Republican. He's a populist. I don't like a lot of things he does and I actually wish he was more aggressive but he's the only force that can keep the current globalists from burning down the country which they are INTENTIONALLY doing at an accelerated rate with money printing, immigration, culture war, etc.... No one ITT has a grasp on the power structure dynamics of our country nor u
sir it was a democratic prosecutor in a democratic state to convince a Gran jury to indict trump and a jury to convict him.
ofc it's political but it doesn't mean it's foul play.
They applied the law as written which they can selectively do only against people they want to punish.
the power structure dynamic is that the law allows prosecutors to pick and choose their cases, and many laws are written in ways to allow prosecutors to rape you on actions that people wouldn't automatically consider "crime" (but which are criminal technically, or can be). that's why "throw the book at x" exists as an expression: because actually applying all the laws in the most negative way against someone will very probably find that person criminally guilty of something if he has a complex enough life.
the lesson isn't that the democrats acted illegally. the lesson is that this is yet one another "gentlemen agreement" norm that got out of the window.
what should republicans do? use their prosecutors in their state to go after any democrat politician and every big democrat donor to the full extent of the law and stop ever prosecuting republicans and republican donors when technically allowed not to prosecute.
and make it very clear whenever it's possible legally to do so, that they are doing it transparently, because the law allows them to do so.
as with the filibuster nuking which the Dem started, and republicans later used for a much bigger advantage, they can do the same with politically motivated prosecutions.
because republicans actually have no morals outside winning while many democrats do and that is how you beat them. their voters can accept political prosecution of trump but not an outright farce where only republicans are ever prosecuted in a state for any crime.
republicans instead like these things
sir it was a democratic prosecutor in a democratic state to convince a Gran jury to indict trump and a jury to convict him.
ofc it's political but it doesn't mean it's foul play.
They applied the law as written which they can selectively do only against people they want to punish.
the power structure dynamic is that the law allows prosecutors to pick and choose their cases, and many laws are written in ways to allow prosecutors to rape you on
I agree with all this.
oh the other lesson of course is for anyone with significant business interests who is republican leaning to incorporate in a republican majority state and start donating to republicans
third lesson, don't do crime.
/lesson
sir it was a democratic prosecutor in a democratic state to convince a Gran jury to indict trump and a jury to convict him.
ofc it's political but it doesn't mean it's foul play.
They applied the law as written which they can selectively do only against people they want to punish.
the power structure dynamic is that the law allows prosecutors to pick and choose their cases, and many laws are written in ways to allow prosecutors to rape you on
You know republicans tried to get Hillary to go on trial for almost a full decade right? She has lived a pretty damn complex life yet they were never even able to get to the point of asking a grand jury for a prosecution, let alone having her go on trial and be convicted of anything. It is actually absurdly difficult to get any rich person to face trial for anything that is not a nailed on crime and it's only the fact that Trump has exposed himself to so many potentially prosecutable issues across so many different jurisdictions that means he's ended up in this position.
As for your favourite point about nuking the filibuster being a case of Democrats breaking norms, it's been pointed out multiple times that the norm being broken in that instance was Republicans literally bringing the entire process of appointing officials to a halt. There were hundreds of positions going unfilled in a display of obstructionism orders of magnitude greater than any in prior history before the Dems eventually responded by nuking the filibuster in order to actually have functioning administrative and judicial systems.
I'm sure there probably are cases where the Dems are the ones doing the initial serious breaking of norms but nothing you've mentioned in this post is a good example of it.
You've called the situation a banana republic, accused others multiple times of cope and TDS, implied that the Democratic party is fundamentally corrupt and will do anything to stay in power, implied that the most intelligent people in the country are voting for trump, implied that you are smarter than literally everyone on the forum and understand things that nobody else does... I could probably add to the list.
Thread ignoring the fact Trump raised $39 million in 10 HOURS (would have been more if his site didn't crash). 30% of which were first time donors. And a prominent lefty, Shaun Maguire (@shaunmmaguire) donated $300k.
Normal, well functioning humans can see this is blatant politicized lawfare. Only banana republics throw their political opponents, who are absolutely crushing the polls, in prison to stop them from winning. These are the death
I'm not sure if you realize this, but Trump is not in prison and almost certainly will not be when the election is held.
Also, Biden has not called for Trump to be jailed. As you may recall, one of Trump's main things he talked about in 2016 was how his opponent should be in prison and if he won, that was one of the first things he would work on.
Of course, he broke that promise, either because he realized it wasn't feasible or because he generally just didn't follow through on many of his campaign promises.
why are you all so sure the judge won't sentence Trump to jail? I mean maybe you are right but what makes you so confident about that?
Then why do the people with the highest I.Q.'s also support Trump???
I have no argument so I'll just make a guess that Trump supporters are more stupid than I am which somehow magically makes my political worldview better than yours. Trust me, the smartest people in this country are not voting for Biden.
Of which high IQ people do you speak?
Wild, this what Trump did when he had actual power to throw the (federal) book at HRC
pretty sure now he won't do the same mistake
Everyone who's American is surprised a rich person went to trial. It's wild to see conviction, impossible for the rich to see jail in USA.
why are you all so sure the judge won't sentence Trump to jail? I mean maybe you are right but what makes you so confident about that?
No one is sure of that, I said I'm sure he won't be in jail by November (unless he shoots someone in the middle of 5th Avenue).
I'm sure this will be appealed, and I doubt it will go any faster than any of the other things chasing him now.
No one is sure of that, I said I'm sure he won't be in jail by November (unless he shoots someone in the middle of 5th Avenue).
I'm sure this will be appealed, and I doubt it will go any faster than any of the other things chasing him now.
if I am not mistaken, Merchan can sentence him to jail, he can ask for bail, Merchan himself decides on that, and Merchan can refuse and he goes to jail pending appeals.
it might be unlikely but it's in the power of the sentencing judge iirc
if I am not mistaken, Merchan can sentence him to jail, he can ask for bail, Merchan himself decides on that, and Merchan can refuse and he goes to jail pending appeals.
it might be unlikely but it's in the power of the sentencing judge iirc
Yeah, the judge in both that case and the civil sexual abuse case could have thrown him in jail for constant violations of his gag order, but I didn't see that happen either.
any uprisings at the local waffle houses yet?
