ex-President Trump

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Cute.

Because he at least accepts that whites are very good people for example? Or he will nominate judges that will affirm everything you believe in? Or will veto tax increases and reduce regulations every time he can? He won't put white heterosexual at the bottom of society ladder as freaks who deserve punishment?

Not that Biden disagrees with the above. Biden is a decent person, a very decent one. But the people around him are some of the worst people in society and every day they decide more.

Utterly bizarre

'White Rural Rage'

This is why the electoral college needs to be abolished.

I obviously wasn't suggesting that anyone has to vote for one of the two major party candidates. In every election, something on the order of 40-45% of eligible voters either vote for a third party candidate or don't vote at all.

Luciom always acts like it is self-evident that Biden's cabinet and other close advisors consist mainly of radical progressives.

That isn't self-evident to me at all. Who exactly are we talking about?

Nice to see Letitia James posted on twitter/X the amounts daily that Trump is occurring in interest penalties . Yup not political at all

There are a lot of reasons people vote for one candidate over another. However, most people either vote for who they think would benefit themselves the most or who would be best for the country long-term.

I think voting for someone because they are a good person or voting against someone because they are a bad person is somewhere between silly and stupid. I think voters should care more about what is best for them or the people around them than if a candidate is a big meany-butt. The same people who vote for a candidate because he is nice or his opponent is mean are the people who overpay when buying a house because the house is well decorated.

This message is brought to you by citizens for a meaner America.

Also, no such thing as over paying for a house that is well decorated. That’s like saying someone overpaid for art.

you really just don't get it

Troll post of the year.

He is clearly a conservative who should he vote for if Trump is evil but he does not support Biden's policies ? You do not get that Many Republicans would take a corrupt Trump over Joe Biden

Do you really think that I am suggesting that people should vote against Trump as a moral statement?

Trump's deficiencies as a person aren't somehow unrelated to his performance as president. Amoral garbage people tend to do destructive things while in office.

Just because one candidate is meaner than the other doesn't mean America as a whole will be meaner. For instance, if the meaner candidate is harsher on crime than the nice candidate then the meaner president will likely lead to a nicer America as people will have to worry less about how many extra bad guys are on the street because the nice president is so nice that his party is encouraging softer on crime policies. When people are less worried about if they are going to get robbed when in public they may take the time to chat up some randoms.

No one is confused. Everyone knows that a lot of people just don't care about Trump's fitness. Trump is going to get 45% of the popular vote. A good chunk of that 45% understand who Trump is as a person and just doesn't care.

Yes, and if you are confused by why I would think that you may want to re-read the post you wrote that I was responding to. You seemed to be reducing the difference between the two candidates to just what you perceived as one being nicer than the other.

This may have worked before he became president, but not that we've seen him for 4 years as president I don't think you are going to convince people this is a real issue. I have heard some Dems throw around the idea of re-running the same thing they ran against him before his election win: he is too dangerous to give the nuke codes to, he's going to start WW3 and he's going to turn minorities and women into 2nd class citizens. Dems got caught bluffing on how America was in danger under trump, they got called on it and now they want to replay the hand and make the same move.

I think the chunk of people voting for trump who don't care if he is a good or bad person is extremely small. I think trump voters, like all voters, do care, but they care more about who they think we will be a better president for them, their family/friends and America.

Dems trying to raise minimum wage to $20/hr is going to cause trillions of more tears than mean old trump is going to cause by calling some woman ugly.

I think Mitch McConnel is the poster boy for this. He despises Trump; he blames Trump for costing republicans the senate and thus him majority lesder. He openly states that Trump was responsible for the insurrection. Yet when asked if he would vote for Trump if he is the R nominee he says of course he would.

This is part of the problem with the system as it has evolved. McConnell doing anything other than voting for his party's nominee would be crazy.

It’s ok , baham propose that the GOP , supposedly the party of the law and order , can now advocate for death row inmate, sexual abused or ex-con etc to be the leader of the country .
Priceless.

Yes it’s the democrats that becomes or are already extremist lol

Just as Biden will get 45% of the popular vote from the folks that care about Biden's fitness to do the job

And on the other side you have Rashida Tlaib who openly is telling voters and voting herself for non committed because she thinks Joe Biden is doing nothing but supporting genocide against Palestinians but come November I bet she is voting Biden . Now ones a Senate leader and Rashida just a house rep

I never said or implied anything about "niceness." And I never would. I care about affability only insofar as it relates to performance.

We have very different perspectives on Trump's presidency. In any case, if his four years in office didn't convince you, I agree that you likely will never be convinced.

Like Biden, Trump is too old. The difference is that Trump has always been unfit to the be president. He was unfit when he was 40, when he was 50, when he was 60, and when he was elected. His unbridled narcissism, lack of empathy, and inability to put any interest (e.g., the national interest) ahead of his personal interest are core aspects of his adult personality. They have been on full display for the duration of his time as a public figure.

Again, you can go back in read your post that initiated this convo or not. No sense in debating what is still only a few posts ago.

I think there are plenty of examples of trump putting other first, but the one example that really sticks out is how he fought dems very hard early on during covid to minimize the amount of money the government threw around, the amount of money printed and for how long the economy was shut down, but in the end dems talked him into sending most people checks and trump even put his name on the checks (as if that means something).

Trump knew the extended shutdowns, printing of money and handing out of money was the perfect recipe for inflation, but he also knows that government handouts are the quickest way to buy votes. Despite this he fought dems on it hard and talked them down on a lot of the inflation-creation policies they were pushing even though it would have been good for him politically to give out the handouts.

It seems like with biden every time his approval rating clicks down he is paying off more student debt or trying illegally to do so. Handouts work when it comes to getting votes - hell look at most of the bad economies of Europe and many of the failed countries of years past.