President Joe Biden

President Joe Biden

Right now, we need VP Biden, we need him to step down and drop out so Bernie sanders can save this country from this global crisis just like FDR.

A thread to debate the efficacy of a Joe Biden Presidency in the midst of a global pandemic and impending Great Recession/Depression.

Where is Joe Biden? Can he beat Trump and is he even trying to? What would a Joe Biden Presidency look like in these times? Where is he and why isn't he leading?

20 March 2020 at 09:14 PM
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by Slighted P

my father had dementia and i see the same pattern of deterioration in Trump.

what you guys highlighted as trump purported deterioration was already there in 2016 as I pointed out, very clearly.

he could be slightly demented since 8-10 years ago and stable at that, that's not impossible .

but can you point to anything you see today in trump behavior which wasn't there already with the same frequency and intensity in 2016?


by chillrob P

I think they're saying that it's not ideal, but better than having a president who is a traitor who already tried to overturn election results.

But of course that traitor is mentally incapacitated as well.

The depressing reality of it is it doesn’t matter anymore. Even if biden wins the weaknesses have already been exposed and are easily exploited. The GOP is so positioned by extremists that they only need to win the presidency once to get everything that the ilk who came up with project 2025 want

You have the left operating on blind faith that both sides will play by the same rules on a pinky promise and the right ready to tear that bullshit down with a smile on their face and their dick in their hands while they do it while the left says ‘hey that’s not fair!’ Until there’s a candidate willing to call it like it is and a party platform ready to strip the levers of authoritarianism no matter how partisan it comes off all we’re doing is delaying the invevitible


Biden is probably the right candidate to stave off trump til 2028, but he’s the absolute wrong president to prevent an inevitable outcome. Not sure who on the dem bench has the balls to do what needs doing no matter how many feathers it ruffles


by Luciom P

I remember the exchange with you while I don't remember if I answered you further tbh on the topic.

i agree exit polls and in general sub demo analysis of the vote can be very imprecise but the same is true long after the election.

I feel like you strongly want the idea that college educated whites went for Biden by significant margins to be true.

it might be true but it doesn't feel like your sources are much more credible than the original,

I can separate what I want to be true from what is true. And your position isn’t weaker than you thought. It’s just wrong. Like I posted an article literally explaining on a pop level why it’s wrong. How can a logical person not either accept it or counter with logic? A political hack would hem and haw and do anything but accept the pretty basic analysis.


by Slighted P

my father had dementia and i see the same pattern of deterioration in Trump.

And you do not see that in Biden ?


The memes write themselves.



What I love about maga messages like BJ is they bring Biden expectations so low about his intellectual ability then just a medium performance in the debate by Biden will be a slam dunk win while trump will have to do a much better performance just to break even -> being a convicted candidate and all .


by Montrealcorp P

What I love about maga messages like BJ is they bring Biden expectations so low about his intellectual ability then just a medium performance in the debate by Biden will be a slam dunk win while trump will have to do a much better performance just to break even -> being a convicted candidate and all .

will the debate happen?


by Montrealcorp P

What I love about maga messages like BJ is they bring Biden expectations so low about his intellectual ability then just a medium performance in the debate by Biden will be a slam dunk win while trump will have to do a much better performance just to break even -> being a convicted candidate and all .

you just love it!


Biden has to walk on the stage unaided and not shake hands with invisible people first. Even that's probably too high a bar at this stage.


Well, I guess we'll find out soon. I don't remember the last time I watched a debate, but I'll be tuning in for this one.


by Brian James P

Biden has to walk on the stage unaided and not shake hands with invisible people first. Even that's probably too high a bar at this stage.

The good news is they will be standing so he doesn't need to find his seat.


by Luciom P

will the debate happen?

It's not gonna happen. Biden is going down hill fast. I think we are gonna hear something in the next few days.


by Montrealcorp P

Yup
And fwiw Biden didn’t actually been said by doctors to be mentally incapacitated.
Trump either but his actions to me speaks volume .
Still believing 2020 election was stolen is not living in reality …..

Do we really need a doctor to tell us something is horribly wrong with Biden?


by Brian James P

Who knows what the actual diagnosis is, but trying to pretend that Biden hasn't lost his marbles is just pure gaslighting at this stage.

I don't think it is necessary to know what affliction is making Joe act the way he does. We all see it. He looks like a hundred year old WW2 vet. At some point you have to take the keys away from grandpa.


by Brian James P

Even that's probably too high a bar at this stage.

He'll be high on the candy again just like he was at the SOTU.


by BradleyT P

The memes write themselves.


Interesting. My girlfriend actually met with him and some other senators last week. That's obviously a silly gaffe, but be assured he has all his mental faculties.


by chillrob P

Well, I guess we'll find out soon. I don't remember the last time I watched a debate, but I'll be tuning in for this one.

Its sad that the main reason folks will be watching is to see how much Trump lies and if Biden doesn't freeze, die or tell us about the dead people he meets

Reality is CNN will be feeding Biden all the questions prior to the debate


by lozen P

Its sad that the main reason folks will be watching is to see how much Trump lies and if Biden doesn't freeze, die or tell us about the dead people he meets

Reality is CNN will be feeding Biden all the questions prior to the debate

i'm waiting for trump to do trump stuff and talk about batteries electrocuting sharks or some other dementia riddled drunk uncle type stuff. while biden talks about policy but says the number 55 instead of 45 and the rightwing media and it's followers(you) to scream "HE SAID 45 INSTEAD OF 55!!!!" for two months


by Slighted P

i'm waiting for trump to do trump stuff and talk about batteries electrocuting sharks or some other dementia riddled drunk uncle type stuff. while biden talks about policy but says the number 55 instead of 45 and the rightwing media and it's followers(you) to scream "HE SAID 45 INSTEAD OF 55!!!!" for two months

Trump is crazy, but in a different way. He's always said nutty stuff.

Trying to draw some equivalence to Biden's dementia just isn't going to be a good election strategy. Denying what is obvious to everyone gets into Baghdad Bob territory quickly.


by campfirewest P

Trump is crazy, but in a different way. He's always said nutty stuff.

Trying to draw some equivalence to Biden's dementia just isn't going to be a good election strategy. Denying what is obvious to everyone gets into Baghdad Bob territory quickly.

i'm not drawing an equivalence. there is no equivalence. trump is much dumber initially, much dumber right now, and will be much dumber in 4 yrs time. it isn't even particularly close. i've never seen anyone show an example of Biden saying the sheer stupidity of stuff trump says and does. literally every clip people rage about Biden is just an 80 yr old guy at his nth function of the day on a stage he's never been on looking for the exit when it's time to leave. that's not dementia. that's just normal. OR the clip is a deceptively edited ragebait hitjob like the parachute one, where it's very obvious he's addressing the parachuter that just landed because that's what he was there for.

the only reason people think it's close is because there is money in the media portraying Biden as too old and hand waving away everything absolutely moronic trump says like you are doing because they need to show a comparison.


by mongidig P

Do we really need a doctor to tell us something is horribly wrong with Biden?

Do we need medical doctor to give a diagnosis rather than rely on the partisan opinion of an uneducated poker player? Yes, we do.


by Playbig2000 P

He'll be high on the candy again just like he was at the SOTU.

Exactly what "candy" do you think turns someone from a doddering old man to an energetic public speaker?


by lozen P

Its sad that the main reason folks will be watching is to see how much Trump lies and if Biden doesn't freeze, die or tell us about the dead people he meets

Reality is CNN will be feeding Biden all the questions prior to the debate

You think they will give Biden the questions ahead of time, but not give them to Trump?


by Slighted P

i'm not drawing an equivalence. there is no equivalence. trump is much dumber initially, much dumber right now, and will be much dumber in 4 yrs time. it isn't even particularly close. i've never seen anyone show an example of Biden saying the sheer stupidity of stuff trump says and does. literally every clip people rage about Biden is just an 80 yr old guy at his nth function of the day on a stage he's never been on looking for the exit

Uh no. He walks away from the parachuter that just landed, which everyone else was paying attention to, towards another one that must have landed earlier. The Italian PM then has to go and direct him back to the main focus of attention, like a parent would with a distracted child.

Let's get the facts right please.


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