President Joe Biden

President Joe Biden

Right now, we need VP Biden, we need him to step down and drop out so Bernie sanders can save this country from this global crisis just like FDR.

A thread to debate the efficacy of a Joe Biden Presidency in the midst of a global pandemic and impending Great Recession/Depression.

Where is Joe Biden? Can he beat Trump and is he even trying to? What would a Joe Biden Presidency look like in these times? Where is he and why isn't he leading?

20 March 2020 at 09:14 PM
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Biden should step down immediately. He likely can't even checkmate with King+Rook vs lone King at this point.


by borg23 P

Biden cowrote a blatantly racist crime bill that imprisoned a ton of black people for reason and bragged about it for a decade.

Both of these guys are disgraceful human beings but Biden has caused far more damage in his life.

Not if you ask 95% of people who have ever spent a significant amount of time with Trump.


by gmcarroll33 P

Lolz “protest peacefully and patriotically” is an attack? Call us Nazi’s all you want to as a last resort. We’re used to it by now and just rolls off. The fact is Trump is your next president as voted and wanted by the American public. Sorry but not sorry.

The new VP nominee called Trump the American Hitler. That hasn't changed, but he has decided to join the millions of people who would have supported Hitler.


by L0LWAT P

This is not what happened. It's been thoroughly investigated and documented. A bunch of far right wingers and nazis conspired with Trump for months to overthrow the government on January 6. They attacked the capitol and hundreds were injured. Pence ran for his life along with all the congress people. It's all on video and documented by bipartisan investigation.

If you could provide a source for your assertions, that would be good.

Because the Attorney General is a pussy and didn't charge them with capital treason like he should have. Every person who entered the capitol building without authorization that day should have been executed.


by gmcarroll33 P

Lol the stupidity only grows along with the same bs I've heard for over 9 years. Exactly what do you think Trump coming on tv while these idiots were storming was going to do to stop it? If he said fight like hell, protest peacefully and patriotically and they took that to breach the Capitol and walk around like idiots then that's on them. Was their some huge Big Brother screen awaiting them?

Here is the transcript of the speech

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848...

Again no where in the end of his speech trump use the word peace or peacefully …..

But many words like fight like hell , boldness , courage, etc… to an inflamed crowd .
Try again !


Btw :https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-capi...

The committee showed video of several White House officials describing their dismay that afternoon at seeing a Twitter post by Trump to his supporters in which he blamed Pence for not stopping the certification.
"Trump was pouring gasoline on the fire," Matthews said.
The security official said some of Pence's bodyguards began to fear for their own lives. "There were calls to say goodbye to family members," the security official said. "The VP detail thought this was about to get very ugly."

The attack on the Capitol led to several deaths. More than 850 people have been charged with taking part in the riot, with more than 325 guilty pleas so far.
Near the end of the hearing, the committee showed outtakes of a video Trump made on Jan. 7 addressing what he called "the heinous attack." But he refused to say in the speech that the election was over.
Trump eventually left Washington on Jan. 20 rather than attend Biden's inauguration that day.
Asked for his assessment of the riot, Cipollone said in the testimony shown on Thursday that it could not be justified in any way. "It was wrong and it was tragic and it was a terrible day for this country."

The point is trump let it go run its course instead of intervening as soon as possible ……
The success of what would of happen is not important , he didn’t even try and instead even put gasoline on it on blaming his VP pence endangering his life !

Witnesses in the room were Matthew Pottinger, a deputy national security adviser under Trump, and Sarah Matthews, a deputy press secretary in his White House. Both resigned in the hours following the riot.
"If the president had wanted to make a statement and address the American people, he could have been on camera almost immediately," Matthews testified. "If he had wanted to make an address from the Oval Office, we could have assembled the White House press corps within minutes."

As for the rest , many posters just said what need to be said .


by chillrob P

Every person who entered the capitol building without authorization that day should have been executed.

Hot take


by Montrealcorp P

Here is the transcript of the speech

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848...

Again no where in the end of his speech trump use the word peace or peacefully …..

But many words like fight like hell , boldness , courage, etc… to an inflamed crowd .
Try again !


Btw :https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-capi...

The point i

Man it's just too easy with you
https://twitter.com/pafstfrgz/status/168...


by gmcarroll33 P

If covid doesn’t happen we’re not even discussing a vegetable stepping down. Trump would be ending his 2nd term. Biden never wins without out. Impolite to call us a cult my man. We get 2 parties to pick of and chose one different than you. Don’t be extreme.

I subscribe to this. Now we are potentially looking at 12 years of GOP if Trump's win is decisive enough. Could have just been 1 term of Trump (not going to get that much done with COVID) and then 2 terms for the Dems.


by chillrob P

The new VP nominee called Trump the American Hitler. That hasn't changed, but he has decided to join the millions of people who would have supported Hitler.

Here's a question for you, if Trump was seriously going to be Hitler then why didn't he do it already in his first term? You idiots have been claiming this since the day he ran for office when nothing suggested anything of his life showing his dream to be Hitler.


by jjjou812 P

You are an election denier and you don't want to be insulted by being called a stupid cult member because of feelies?

When did I deny an election? I was merely talking covid and how that changed the landscape of the 2020 election. Wanna toss out more bs with zero facts then go ahead, but you look stupid.


by gmcarroll33 P

Here's a question for you, if Trump was seriously going to be Hitler then why didn't he do it already in his first term? You idiots have been claiming this since the day he ran for office when nothing suggested anything of his life showing his dream to be Hitler.

They fear the number of EOs he will sign yet Biden signed many more.


by wet work P

Covid was a giant lay-up all trump had to do was lead instead of tommy-boying it up. He completely destroyed his own cakewalk into re-election bud.

No argument. Loved Kemp giving him the middle finger and opening GA back up when he felt like it vs Trump's national plan. Trump still trashes him to this day as do most R's that don't live here. Kemp is one of the best GA governors of my life, and partly bc he gave Trump a big F U.


by gmcarroll33 P

Here's a question for you, if Trump was seriously going to be Hitler then why didn't he do it already in his first term?

He did try to make himself the winner of the election that he lost. He just didn't go a very good job at it.


by gmcarroll33 P

Here's a question for you, if Trump was seriously going to be Hitler then why didn't he do it already in his first term? You idiots have been claiming this since the day he ran for office when nothing suggested anything of his life showing his dream to be Hitler.

He did. The fact that sniveling moronic little lying pricks like you keep denying it doesn't make it so.


by d2_e4 P

He did. The fact that sniveling moronic little lying pricks like you keep denying it doesn't make it so.

Sorry I didn’t see any Jewish people thrown into ovens and gas chambers under his presidency. Also didn’t try to take over the world. Nor did I see any wars started under him. Saw Biden have 2 start under him, and back Hamas over Israel while furiously buying Iranian oil during the midst of this to try and lower gas prices for votes. Biden much closer to Hitler than Trump ever dreamed of acting like. Sorry if the truth hurts your feelings and you feel the need to resort to childish name calling as a last resort to try and give your post some emphasis.


by gmcarroll33 P

Sorry I didn’t see any Jewish people thrown into ovens and gas chambers under his presidency. Also didn’t try to take over the world. Nor did I see any wars started under him. Saw Biden have 2 start under him, and back Hamas over Israel while furiously buying Iranian oul during the midst of this to try and lower gas prices for votes. Biden much closer to Hitler than Trump ever dreamed of acting like. Sorry if the truth hurt

That's not how analogies work. Anyway, pointless taking to you, you've already made it clear you're a cultist and would hack your own balls off before you admit there's anything wrong with your orange god.


by d2_e4 P

That's not how analogies work. Anyway, pointless taking to you, you've already made it clear you're a cultist and would hack your own balls off before you admit there's anything wrong with your orange god.

Ahh I see. Let’s throw out Hitler as an example and be shown that nothing you just said makes any sense of this as a historical example, and then get really rustled and “uggh uggh ughhh CULT MEMBER!” Like that offends any of us at this point. The country wants Trump despite whatever crazy ideas of him live in your mind. Not a democrat. Deal with it with some class.


by gmcarroll33 P

Saw Biden [...] back Hamas over Israel

Are you living in the same simulation as the rest of us?


by ganstaman P

Are you living in the same simulation as the rest of us?

Where the hell have you been? Biden saying we stand with Israel is just words. Biden literally did everything imaginable after that to appeal to Palestine voters afterwards and started buying up Iranian oil to try and lower gas costs heading into the election. Basically supporting Hamas with our wallet. Nothing of his actions backed Israel or Jewish people. What simulation are you in?


by gmcarroll33 P

No argument. Loved Kemp giving him the middle finger and opening GA back up when he felt like it vs Trump's national plan. Trump still trashes him to this day as do most R's that don't live here. Kemp is one of the best GA governors of my life, and partly bc he gave Trump a big F U.

GA was one of the states where covid deaths ranked higher than its population. Do you think all of those extra dead people feel the same way? I think they're trashing him because he didn't play along with the election stuff. Seriously doubt the avg R voter out in the wild could name him on the covid thing without lots of prompting 😀


by gmcarroll33 P

Ahh I see. Let’s throw out Hitler as an example and be shown that nothing you just said makes any sense of this as a historical example, and then get really rustled and “uggh uggh ughhh CULT MEMBER!” Like that offends any of us at this point. The country wants Trump despite whatever crazy ideas of him live in your mind. Not a democrat. Deal with it with some class.

Nah, you're just lying about the stuff that does make sense and claiming it didn't happen. That's why you're a cultist and/or a moron.


by d2_e4 P

Nah, you're just lying about the stuff that does make sense and claiming it didn't happen. That's why you're a cultist and/or a moron.

Da fk are you talking about? I said Trump said protest peacefully and patriotically. Somebody said LIES. Then I showed the exact video of him saying it. Literally all I said was he would have won in 2020 without covid which he screwed up. What else did I say? And btw what crazy cult are you a part of? Geez you have literally no facts and when shown so just hurl out “cult” “HITLER” “NAZIS”. It’s pretty sad and pathetic but we’ve heard it for 9 years while you voted for a vegetable that can’t even make it to November.


by gmcarroll33 P

Da fk are you talking about? I said Trump said protest peacefully and patriotically. Somebody said LIES. Then I showed the exact video of him saying it. Literally all I said was he would have won in 2020 without covid which he screwed up. What else did I say? And btw what crazy cult are you a part of? Geez you have literally no facts and when shown so just hurl out “cult” “HITLER” “NAZIS”. It’s pretty sad and pathetic but we’ve hea

You completely ignored the part where he tried to overturn an election and retain power and January 6th was just part of that plan. Someone even wasted their time posting the 7-part plan thing which you obviously responded to without addressing any of the substance of the allegations. But you do you.


by wet work P

GA was one of the states where covid deaths ranked higher than its population. Do you think all of those extra dead people feel the same way? I think they're trashing him because he didn't play along with the election stuff. Seriously doubt the avg R voter out in the wild could name him on the covid thing without lots of prompting 😀

Surely you meant to phrase this differently. We have 10 million people here. We didn’t have anything close to that many deaths. And I’m saying Trump trashed him for covid and the election. Nobody here cared about covid. Nobody made you get out and about if you didn’t want to. The election was over and I don’t blame Kemp for not jeopardizing his political future for Trump.


by gmcarroll33 P

Surely you meant to phrase this differently. We have 10 million people here. We didn’t have anything close to that many deaths. And I’m saying Trump trashed him for covid and the election. Nobody here cared about covid. Nobody made you get out and about if you didn’t want to. The election was over and I don’t blame Kemp for not jeopardizing his political future for Trump.

Ya I could have worded it better but most states sit on the covid list at the same spot they do on the population list(eg Ca 1/1 Tx 2/2 etc). Ga doesn't.


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