Gun control

More specifically, people who already aren't allowed to have them.

No amount of gun laws will stop things like have happened in Philly this week.

Every single day this week, people have been shot and killed at bus stops in the city, almost certainly by known criminals who shouldn't be outside of a prison cell but most definitely shouldn't be holding a gun. Culminating with a shooting last night where a car with blacked out windows and no plates opened fire on a bunch of high school students at a bus stop, hitting 8 of them. One kid was hit 9 times and isn't going to make it, another is in critical condition.

If you want to solve the gun violence problem in the US, you need to get rid of the guns entirely. But nobody with any power is willing to put their name on that suggestion.

Talking about adding more gun laws for criminals to ignore is stupid and pointless.

While you are right that with zero guns allowed there would be no gun violence, this is not the answer as long as police and military are allowed to have guns. How much data does one need to see before believing that the Government is not our friend and making it so they are the only ones to have guns will inevitably make the average American's life worse? There will come a point in the future and it may be many decades away, that the American people will decide they have had enough of being fleeced by our "elected" leaders and ACTUAL change needs to take place. If we have no access to firearms this task will be virtually impossible instead of unbelievable difficult.

The vast, vast, vast majority of gun violence in USA is committed by low IQ street level gangbangers, most who don't even bother aiming at intended targets. Dealing with these idiots is the answer to our problem. Throw them away. Stick them in prison, forever.

We all know this, yet somehow gun control becomes a massive talking point when some lunatic goes into public and commits a mass shooting.

I'm all for a world where no guns exist. Where no nuclear weapons exist etc, but that's not happening so solve the actual problem and cull the bottom 2% of our society off the streets.

Lol, another hero who is going to face off against the American military armed with a 9mm. Where do they find you people?

You do realize that there are many law-abiding Americans who own small arsenals of weapons, right?

There are also members of said military who won't be on board with the governments plans.

I'm not some hero patriot. I'm just a dude who realizes our leaders are sell outs who don't care about us at all. At some point there will be a revolution. I probably won't be around to see it but history has shown this to be the case.

As for where I came from, my moms vagina. You?

Lol, OK, Rambo, I don't want no trouble. You go and fight the good fight, good luck in your endeavours.

I don't own any guns. Never fired one. Probably will learn how but hopefully never aim at anything other than a range target.

You do realize you live in a country that was founded by men who overthrew their government, right? Assuming you're American.

I am not, but what is perhaps more pertinent is that I find references to 250 year old events vacuous and irrelevant.

How is discussing a potential American revolution and bringing up the fact that it happened before irrelevant?

Are you English by any chance?

Does it matter? Lol revolution. You're cute, in a childlike way.

lol, you really think the government doesn't **** with people because they are afraid of citizens with guns?

seriously?

Nope, I don't believe that at all.

What I do believe is that eventually the people will have had enough, and revolt will be required.

I also believe in our constitution, in which the original authors basically foresaw what would eventually happen, that is the government stops serving the people, and did their best to give said people a fighting chance.

All of this is beside the point. We don't have a gun problem. We have a scum problem. I know, I know. I am an idiot. Anyone who challenges leftist thinking is, so I'll just admit to being one ahead of time.

Many of the legal principles underpinning contract law and other areas of the law are far older than 250 years.

Some go back to Roman times.

I do i think that's the main reason democrat led states couldn't actually have true lockdowns in the sense of militaries-in-the-streets ones like in France Spain Italy and some Australian regions.

Try to use armed militaries to completly lockdown rural California or Vermont and see what happens, let's see if they are willing to risk being killed every day for real for a normal salary because the governor said the virus is very dangerous

I also think this heroic effort by anti fascist patriots helped avoid a complete lockdown in Michigan

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/protesters...

These go back to Roman times too? "Fighting chance" lulz. Got better chances against a flopped royal.

Fighting chance against the military? The military are the gun toting right wingers. Who are they attacking?

Dunno man, ask homeslice. He watched a rerun of Commando and thought it was a documentary.

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These go back to Roman times too? "Fighting chance" lulz. Got better chances against a flopped royal.

if your claim is that any weapon available to the military should be available to the public under the 2a, i fully agree

I think you might find fighter jets to be prohibitively expensive for most.

fighting chance against militaries deployed to control the population, not intended to kill everyone.

if they want to kill everyone you die.

if they want to police you in fascist ways and every one can have an AK 47 and infinite ammos it's not that easy for them.

sure but if you have 10-20 companies with sizeable military equipment ready to be loaned by companies, fascism is harder to achieve.

and fighter jets cost the state a multiple of what they would cost on the free market because there is massive fraud in military equip procurement. like tens of billions of waste per year

So to clarify, you think civilians should be permitted to own fully active fighter jets, correct? What about thermonuclear warheads?

yes to both, you can have heavy controls for the latter same as you have to nuclear power plants which can be owned by private entities.

i am not sure why you shocked by the idea of private entities owning nuclear warheads while nuclear power plants are owner by private entities.

I am also not sure why you believe the state to be more trustworthy than private entities in general for anything

Right-o.

just put him on ignore, bro.

as an aside, the relative military power of British empire vs revolutionists may not be as great as the potential of another overthrowing of future USA government, but it was still vast. what is overlooked is the will of the people to fight for what they believe in.