2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/21/busin...
"The U.S. economy added far fewer jobs in 2023 and early 2024 than previously reported, a sign that cracks in the labor market are more severe — and began forming earlier — than initially believed.
On Wednesday, the Labor Department said that monthly payroll figures overstated job growth by roughly 818,000 in the 12 months that ended in March. That suggests employers added about 174,000 jobs per month during that period, down from the previously reported pace of about 242,000 jobs — a downward revision of about 28 percent."
Wasn't sure where to post this but this seems like quite the "oops."
AP: Former Trump officials are among the most vocal opponents of returning him to the White House
Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper has called him a “threat to democracy.” Former national security adviser John Bolton has declared him “unfit to be president.” And former Vice President Mike Pence has declined to endorse him, citing “profound differences.”
As Donald Trump seeks the presidency for a third time, he is being vigorously opposed by a vocal contingent of former officials who are stridently warning against his return to power and offering dire predictions for the country and the rule of law if his campaign succeeds.
It’s a striking chorus of detractors, one without precedent in the modern era, coming from those who witnessed first-hand his conduct in office and the turmoil that followed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/21/busin...
"The U.S. economy added far fewer jobs in 2023 and early 2024 than previously reported, a sign that cracks in the labor market are more severe — and began forming earlier — than initially believed.
On Wednesday, the Labor Department said that monthly payroll figures overstated job growth by roughly 818,000 in the 12 months that ended in March. That suggests employers add
Yeah that was a major f*** up by the BLS. Fortunately they found and reported the error before election day otherwise they would have been accused of intentionally falsifying the data for political purposes.
No, What's ****ed is the child undermining everything you did by pretending they had a difficult childhood so that they can be on the "right" side of politics. I see it happening all the time with the people I grew up with, and you see it now with Kamala Harris acting like she's some project baby.
Saying "Everything I don't like is communist, has not worked well for your party.".
sick of his whiny, hateful "woe is me" routine, sick of his total word salad vomit and
ravings as well as him saying everything will go to hell in the U.S., if he isn't re-elected
sick of him saying, "The likes of which we've never seen before.".
No, What's ****ed is the child undermining everything you did by pretending they had a difficult childhood so that they can be on the "right" side of politics. I see it happening all the time with the people I grew up with, and you see it now with Kamala Harris acting like she's some project baby.
Yep, because all people who grew up with privilege worked at McDonalds while going to college.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/21/busin...
"The U.S. economy added far fewer jobs in 2023 and early 2024 than previously reported, a sign that cracks in the labor market are more severe — and began forming earlier — than initially believed.
On Wednesday, the Labor Department said that monthly payroll figures overstated job growth by roughly 818,000 in the 12 months that ended in March. That suggests employers add
Did they clarify why the huge mistake happened?
Trump’s latest claim about the Butler, Pennsylvania shooting
"The revisions, which are preliminary, are part of an annual process in which monthly estimates, based on surveys, are reconciled with more accurate but less timely records from state unemployment offices. The new figures, once finalized, will be incorporated into official government employment statistics early next year."
So this is not a new thing. But the numbers are rarely this far off.....this is the largest preliminary revision since 2009.
Trump’s latest claim about the Butler, Pennsylvania shooting
You just wasted 6 min of my life
"The revisions, which are preliminary, are part of an annual process in which monthly estimates, based on surveys, are reconciled with more accurate but less timely records from state unemployment offices. The new figures, once finalized, will be incorporated into official government employment statistics early next year."
So this is not a new thing. But the numbers are rarely this far off.....this is the largest preliminary revision since
Ye i mean i know at the beginning they are preliminary, i was asking if we had any clue about how/why this time the mistakes were this big.
Btw in theory mistakes should be in a random direction every month, not in the same one for 12 months in a row (!!)
I mean if you love raping words you can like that sentence.
If instead you care even a bit about semantics, calling inheritance "affirmative action" is completely absurd, a racist dog whistle, an utter disgrace.
AA is a state intervention (and an unconstitutional one, a grave violation of profound principles of society), inheritance is a family event (and a completly legal one, the fulfilment of one of the most profound principles of society)
“If you love raping words you can like that sentence” is a wild statement. You realize that calling Trump a product of affirmative action is most likely a response to him calling Kamala a DEI candidate, right? Your selective outrage and reliance on rhetoric to make your point is honestly disgusting.
Ugh. I was hoping with the locking of the covid thread I wouldn't have to read anymore brain dead covid conspiracy crap, or at least not get flooded with pages of it.
“If you love raping words you can like that sentence” is a wild statement. You realize that calling Trump a product of affirmative action is most likely a response to him calling Kamala a DEI candidate, right? Your selective outrage and reliance on rhetoric to make your point is honestly disgusting.
Michelle in the same speech said that Trump isn't qualified for the job of president because that's a black job now.
I am actually outraged at the way she racializes everything.
And this happens the same day Obama has a very moderate and reasonable message, that doesn't spare criticism to Trump, but does so in a dignified manner, so it's not like she had to do this
Ye very funny for a party that was chanting 4 more years to a old white man until one month ago
Right? It's almost like if it's a different person running, they support that person. ****ing hypocrites!
You do realise the "black job" jab is a reference to something Trump said recently, right?
We don't have much data but, presumably, shouldn't Harris father come from decent money just because he was able to study in London and then at Berkley being Jamaican? how does a 20 y old Jamaican in 1958 manage to get to study in London without very significant for the time (ie top5% at the very least in Jamaica) family money? maybe there were free programs or something i am not aware about
In the humanities, at least, almost no one pays substantial tuition for a PhD program in the U.S. If you don't get funding early on, it's pretty much a sign that the school doesn't want you.
It probably works the same in STEM fields.
Wanted to give Harris a chance, not a big Trump fan. But ok raising capital gains tax, when there shouldn't really be any to begin with is one thing. Taxing unrealizd gains, gtfo. Imo she is an idiot, dangerous fool, has no business leading anything. Trump all day.
I'll never have 100 milly, I figured that out. But if they do this, they will lower threashold later no problem. But you are telling people with 100 mill they cant invest in anything. Need to sit in cash or lose any gains.
Michelle in the same speech said that Trump isn't qualified for the job of president because that's a black job now.
I am actually outraged at the way she racializes everything.
And this happens the same day Obama has a very moderate and reasonable message, that doesn't spare criticism to Trump, but does so in a dignified manner, so it's not like she had to do this
You are just such a disingenuous hack dude. She said that as a response to talking about how illegal immigrants are taking “black jobs”.
Michelle Obama’s speech wasn’t that great for me because she has no policy expertise and it clearly shows, just like Doug’s speech, but that’s such a disingenuous attack dude.
Wanted to give Harris a chance, not a big Trump fan. But ok raising capital gains tax, when there shouldn't really be any to begin with is one thing. Taxing unrealizd gains, gtfo. Imo she is an idiot, dangerous fool, has no business leading anything. Trump all day.
I'll never have 100 milly, I figured that out. But if they do this, they will lower threashold later no problem. But you are telling people with 100 mill they cant invest i
so in your opinion, taxing gains mean they cant invest anything. Why is that? are they pitching a fit?
