2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
Silver means that Trump is worse off because of that debate. Without the debate Biden would probably still be on the ballot and trump chances would be far higher and so on.
In general, in literature, whomever is in the lead doesn't gain from debating
I was guessing that was what he meant. I just hadn't read his comments.
Except, now that I think about it, aren't both parties exactly the same?
This is all making my head hurt.
It's funny, Kinzinger started his speech with something like "I was surprised to learn that Democrats like America as much as we do!"
The whole thing felt fairly "republican" to me.
Yeah the part where Kamala said that Palestinians deserve the right to self-determination was right out of the Republican playbook.
lying is pretty Republican indeed
yeah republicans hate america even more - hate it so much they are trying to save the rest of the world the despair of coming to live here those noble people
the uncommitted movement are not leftists lol. no leftists are going to grovel for a chance to speak at the Democratic Party's genocide jubilee of joy.
The golden rule of leftism is that no matter how much to the left someone is, someone else can claim he is not a true leftist by being even more to the left.
That is also known as the no true leftistman fallacy
at the very least leftists arent Democrats ffs
Democrats are pretty centrist in the global scheme of things, if not right of center.
You really have to pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist to call Dems left-wing.
Democrats are pretty centrist in the global scheme of things, if not right of center.
You really have to pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist to call Dems left-wing.
there isn't only one axis that goes left-right.
on some stuff democrats are even right of center (military interventionism and some aspects of fiscality).
on others lol.
For abortion they are the most radical to the left in the first world or close to it. For trans issues same thing.
then there are issues on which democrats are incredibly divided within the coalition so you have both reasonable potentially center right takes on climate change, and complete banana Greta boys takes as well, all within the same party.
Or unions (what happened with school closures and democrat teacher unions with COVID didn't happen in almost any other country including leftist ones; but it didn't happen in all states).
If you aren't an anarchist at 19 you got no heart. If you aren't an authoritarian Soviet Communist at 40 then you got no brain.
there isn't only one axis that goes left-right.
on some stuff democrats are even right of center (military interventionism and some aspects of fiscality).
on others lol.
For abortion they are the most radical to the left in the first world or close to it. For trans issues same thing.
then there are issues on which democrats are incredibly divided within the coalition so you have both reasonable potentially center right takes on climate change,
I don't know enough about abortion around the world but whatever. The Dems are decent on abortion, imo.
As for trans issues, we're talking fringe ****. Gaza is more a hot button issue and that's not moving a needle.
As for unions, odd you bring up teacher unions when American teacher unions are among the most effective unions in the world. This isn't ideological. Teachers unions are pragmatic. Until it was proven as such, Dem cities were hotbeds of non-union charter school development.
Dems are divided as hell but when push comes to shove, they elect centrists to run the party. The left is there but their voice is weak. Power and decibel levels don't correlate.
Back to trans issues, I live in a so-called liberal hotbed and there's more discussion about trans issues on this forum than in any of my circles. Exponentially more.
Back to trans issues, I live in a so-called liberal hotbed and there's more discussion about trans issues on this forum than in any of my circles. Exponentially more.
that thread is such a liberal hotbed that half the liberals (who aren't liberal enough i guess) are labeled ultra conservative right wing transphobes
it is not at all representative of society, we're talking bleeding edge leftist abounds over there
Zuck has access to a real time human sentiment machine. He's not releasing now because he thinks Harris is going to win.
I was wondering , are post from Twitter X has more value and credibility then those made here ?
Many keep posting has proof of truth it seem instead of actual news .
The GOP's flip-flopping on Trump
That’s what we knew about Fox News .
They were lying and we knew they knew about trump.
It cost them 700 millions .
But many still believe trump and Fox News still keep lying shrug
