2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
straight down the memory hole
I usually don't comment single polls but the NYT/siena one is one of the most watched polls , rated first (as in "the best pollster nationwide") by 538 and so on.
And it has Trump beating Harris in the popular vote 48 v 46 (2 candidates as options), 44 42 (multicandidate options)
All of them
Even if you desperately tried to split hairs and tried to argue that "this" in "this is a fact of life" refers to pyschos seeing schools as soft targets, WHAT DOES THAT RESULT IN?
jfc this isn't even hard.
It results in ATTEMPTED SCHOOL SHOOTINGS are a fact of life. Not "successful" ones.
We cannot avoid psychos trying to kill people in school. We can and should focus on making it very hard for them to succeed.
That's Vance's (and reasonable people) approach to the problem.
Your approach is "if we can implement completely unconstitutional gun control it would fix itself" which isn't obvious at all, and anyway if you aren't a subversive you don't propose unconstitutional laws no matter your intentions.
It results in ATTEMPTED SCHOOL SHOOTINGS are a fact of life. Not "successful" ones.
We cannot avoid psychos trying to kill people in school. We can and should focus on making it very hard for them to succeed.
That's Vance's (and reasonable people) approach to the problem.
Your approach is "if we can implement completely unconstitutional gun control it would fix itself" which isn't obvious at all, and anyway if you aren't a subversive you don't
Yah no need to control guns .
Just tax the $h!t out of bullet like 100X !
Ps: Hopefully for d2-e4 vid works…😀
Yep, working.
They didn’t made smoking illegal here in Quebec , but they sure jacked up the tax on cigarettes hugely over the years .
The uses of them went way down …
Would be a pretty big coincidence if the one country with unfettered access to guns had so many shootings not because of unfettered access to guns but because of an unexplained excess of psychos, don't you think?
Countries with widespread gang violence, a complete break of the normal concept of the rule of law in some areas for some time, insane murder rates, and extremely easy gun availability, never had the school shootings you had.
It didn't happen in Colombia when it was a narco state, didn't happen in Sicily when the mafia controlled everything, didn't happen in Mexico even in the areas where the state withdrew and let the gang rules, didn't happen in Russia even in the early 90s where hell broke lose.
And.. it didn't happen much in the USA either pre-Columbine.
So yes you have a specific idiosyncratic problem, and it's a mental health problem.
Same with fentanyl abuse
*Sorry not you, americans
Standing in a gun-free zone, in an area controlled by extraordinary law enforcement protocols, enveloped by bulletproof panes of glass, surrounded by secret service agents and saying "school shootings is a fact of life" is pathetic.
On one hand you implicitly state that special measures must be taken to keep you safe, while you on the other hand explicitly state that such measures are not for the plebs or their children.
It's feudal.
Standing in a gun-free zone, in an area controlled by extraordinary law enforcement protocols, enveloped by bulletproof panes of glass, surrounded by secret service agents and saying "school shootings is a fact of life" is pathetic.
On one hand you implicitly state that special measures must be taken to keep you safe, while you on the other explicitly state that such measures are not for the plebs or their children.
It's feudal.
Do you think Vance opposes rules to prevent kids from bringing guns to school?
His kids will be well protected from threats, in ways that are very invasive to the rights of others if need be.
Like I said: It's feudal.
Now that he is VP yes but he lived till a month or two ago with the same security anyone of his income bracket had access to.
Which doesn't prevent your kids from being killed by psychos in schools.
Having armed guards at school does to a good extent. And it costs less that having DEI departments
Now that he is VP yes but he lived till a month or two ago with the same security anyone of his income bracket had access to.
Which doesn't prevent your kids from being killed by psychos in schools.
Having armed guards at school does to a good extent. And it costs less that having DEI departments
Having armed guards does pretty much nothing, except perhaps...
Now, I can't speak for you. But I find that the subject of people putting bullets in children, and leaving them to bleed out while crying for their parents is a serious subject that does not warrant digs at irrelevant policies. I'll grant that this probably disqualifies me as a speechwriter for J.D Vance, but I'll live that one down.
guessing that usa#1 has like 10000x more armed guards and school shootings than everyone else combined, so not sure more cops solves the problem there
So what is the proposal that you guys make that doesn't violate the constitution?
