Politics and Society Moderation Discussion Only Fans Thread
Hello everyone. I've closed the previous mod thread, and opened this to capture all issues related to moderation policies and actions going forward. I'll kick it off by reposting my intro post from the other thread. Again, I'm happy to be here and look forward to hearing from you.
Browser
Hello everyone.
I'm very pleased to have the opportunity to serve as a moderator in Politics and Society. I asked for this position because I believe we are experiencing a polarization in our politics and society unseen since the 1960s. We may well be at a juncture from which we will either make great progress or suffer great setbacks in regards to our democratic foundations and civil rights over the next few years. So I believe it is important to maintain a forum for discussing these important topics. When the other mods had to step back a bit due to their real life time obligations, I asked to join the mod team to help keep the forum going.
I have not followed this forum in the past, though I have been reading through threads the last few days and made a few posts. This has allowed me to get a sense of the initial impression the forum likely makes on new readers who are deciding if our forum is a place they would like to visit regularly and participate in. While I see some familiar names from the live poker forum, many of you I have not had any interaction with to date. I have no preconceived notions of anyone's posting behavior and will essentially start from a clean slate.
I will shortly post more about my modding approach and give my initial impressions of the forum based on my observations over the last several days. I will be soliciting your input on things you like about the forum that you want to remain, and things you don't like that you would like me to change. Your candid input and feedback is very important to me. Especially, please don't hesitate to let me know if you think a policy or a proposal is a bad idea. I'd rather hear it before it goes into effect than after.
My overall modding principle is simple: Be Nice. Disagreement need not be disrespectful, and everyone must be treated with respect. Calling a poster derogatory names or hurling snarky insults never usefully advances a discussion. It just bogs things down and turns off many would be participants. And it's not nice. Don't do it.
My goal is to have a forum where people with a wide variety of opinions along the political spectrum enjoy expressing and debating their views in a spirited manner, free from insults, bigotry and denigrating comments. If you enjoy discussing these important and often polarizing issues in a passionate, yet respectful manner, I look forward to getting to know you and working with you to create a forum people will enjoy visiting and contributing to. You can be as committed, determined and relentless as you like in advocating for your position. Be persuasive, thought provoking and challenging. But be nice.
I want to thank tame_deuces and King Spew for their support in bringing me onboard and for all the time and effort they have put into making the forum better. While I am taking over most of the day to day modding responsibilities, both are retaining their mod status and superpowers, and will be supporting the forum as their availability permits. And I personally welcome their continued advice and feedback.
Again, I am happy to be here and look forward to getting to know you.
Browser
I meant more University level but I did actually take a psych class in high school and Freud was definitely covered.
I took an (honors even) intro psych class in college, and I don't remember Freud being mentioned at all.
We mostly learned about evolutionary psychology, which I think was pretty new and hip back then.
I was the one who brought newton into the trans debate
all of these arguments being made are very weak. lobotomies were made to control and were invented after gender affirming care. There is no link between sexuality and trans issues, just as there was no link to a “feminine side” and actually being gay. In fact , lobotomies were often used against lgbtq and against nuerodiversity. but w/e your feelings are more important than
I wasn't making any point relating to the trans debate, my only point was the analogy/statement that Newtonian mechanics is in any way obsolete is factually incorrect, which is what browser said in the post to which I replied.
You must have attended a rather progressive school. As far as I remember sex ed, we were shown a couple of diagrams of what goes where, and were left to pretty much figure the rest out for ourselves. But then again, I'm pretty old these days.
had pretty graphic and detailed sex ed classes in either 3rd grade or 4th grade (was a 2 year detached program and don't recall which year one of the parents came in to do that) and another in I was to say 7th grade bio class
always taught by an outsider who came in to do it
both times they got pretty detailed and graphic, but i gotta say, they did a remarkably good job keeping it professional and asexual, any images were drawn and desexualized so it felt like any other class and both times i felt really, really bad for the classmate who's parent was in their teaching it to us
and then in high school a woman came to give a talk not really about sex ed but more about being safe and how rape was bad and stuff and she did a neat trick where she took a condom and pulled it over her entire arm and explained that there was no such thing as a bad fit
she also said penis size doesn't matter, the vagina was only so big so if the wang was huge it was wasn't hitting more of her vag but rather she made a joke about it entering a house and just hanging half of it outside via the backdoor
the condom trick and don't worry about your penis size both elicited big laughs
probably for same reason as this
but i learned later that she was full of lies
some condoms, while you could wrap them around a volkwagon, are still going to be very uncomfortable and restrictive and literally make maintaining an erection difficult because the pressure it exerts on "squeezing the toothpaste back into the tube" and surprise surprise, even if you got half you wang hanging out the back door, it's still encompasses the entirety to a greater degree, a door which can get infinitely larger and enjoys being pushed to the limit
what she should have done instead of trying to breed horses with small penises to make the riders feel more comfortable would instead to have given the bros some pointers on how to fingerbang and give oral properly and explain that it's quite nuanced and everyone likes it differently, but here are some general rules of thumb that work well in most instances
like whenever i get a terrible blowjob where she lightly caresses it with her tongue or gives a handy so softly and slowly that you can't even remain hard and i try to stay positive and go with it i just think there must be at least an equal amount of times where i was doing the same thing to her, just ineffectually flicking away to no effect and she just doesn't want to be a debbie downer
yeah, he has the fingers, clearly fingering "her" well done sir
I took an (honors even) intro psych class in college, and I don't remember Freud being mentioned at all.
We mostly learned about evolutionary psychology, which I think was pretty new and hip back then.
Iirc I only took one proper psych class and it was Cognitive psych so no Freud and then Social Psych which would have been cross-listed but also no Freud.
“Wendy poured them drinks, then sat on her bed. “So, what did you do before you began your career in laundromancy?”
“I was a poker player.”
“Really.”
“Online poker. For, like, five years.”
“You can make money doing that?”
“I did.”
Eventually, he kissed her. That was nice. He kissed her hard, and he drew her close; his body felt electric. He smelled like lotion and soap. She could tell he was trying to be gentle as he touched her cheeks and the sides of her torso. They were on their knees on the bed with their pants pressing into each other and she kissed him deeply as she took off his shirt and put her hand on his back. He took off her shirt and put his mouth on her tits and kind of sucked and licked them. She whispered, “Bite, for ****’s sake,” and he did and she felt lightning. She dug her hands into his hair and pressed him hard into her chest and he bit harder and wrapped his legs and arms around her and they fell over on the bed. They kissed totally and furiously. She didn’t see herself do any of this, like[…]”
from Little Fish
by Casey Plett
anyway, see you all later.
thread so lit right now
This is just false. We have already seen you ban people in the last few days for completely arbitrary reasons, so give us a break with the whole "just follow the rules" spiel. You want to use your mod status to steer conversation in a direction that conforms with your political beliefs. You aren't even the first mod of this forum that has done so. Just own it.
Who did I ban for an arbitrary reason? What do you think is an arbitrary reason?
Hell yeah **** got horny af
Also, I strongly agree with browser and ganstaman that you all could ask a lot more interesting questions once you get beyond all questions in regards to trans basically being a back and forth between whether they exist or not( still the essence of the entire debate)
Also, when I was a teen I understood gender better than the average guy because it affected me more. I had an intuitive understanding of the affects of gender norms.
But until I actually read about it I didn’t understand the social construction of gender. So I understand being skeptical about thinking about gender in terms of a social construction. BUT if you do the work, there’s a lot of interesting questions about gender, some of which even answer questions in the “ i think guys are oppressed “ thread which you can’t get to without learning a bit about it. There are many interesting questions about gender no one has asked in a long time.
Less name-calling, more erotica
I love Bela Fleck and Victor Wooten. 👍
hype!
Also, and I mean this with the upmost respect, but **** off with your "thinly veiled attempts to delegitimize trans people", as if I care about that or that that would be something that interests me.
I care about theory and social science. Politics doesn't actually interest me that much* which is why your questions are so boring to me.
*Geopolitics a little but domestic social issues lol no
You asked what you needed to say to get banned. I told you to go to the ban me thread in ATF. You didn't.
But congratulations. You found the magic words. I was surprised, actually because I thought we were having a spirited but civil discussion. But I guess you got bored with that. But whatever your reasons, telling any mod to **** off gets you a temp ban.
you ban Kelhus or whatever but somehow Victor gets a lifetime pass. Look at this garbage. Is the reason he is allowed to say whatever the F he wants is so you have 6 posters instead of 5?
What an absolute joke.
Lifetime pass is hilarious. Oh he's never been banned before so nope, can't do it now.
Yep
He knows I'm jewish and calls me a nszi to get a rise
He says i support genocide when i dont
He provokes people and twists everything
And dun or khelis or whatever you want to call him makes one comment that you find Islamophobic while not putting up with victors bullshit and yeah you perma him
He never hid who he was
But yeah maybe supporting Israel is banworthy here maybe I'll be next
I'm not sure exactly the point the quoted passage is making, but regardless, much of it is factually incorrect. Newtonian mechanics is completely sufficient for the vast majority of purposes, and it's what we learn in high school. In fact, you need to understand Newtonian mechanics before you can have any hope of understanding Einstein's work. And it's special and general relativity, but that's just a nitpick.
I stand corrected. I had seen a special on Einstein that was talking about how Einsteins work had shown that Newtons mechanics was incorrect. But looking it up it says that while Einstein did show flaws in Newtons work, that Newtons laws hold up fine for as reasonable approximations for what happens in the observable world but dont hold up as you approach the speed of light, which is the area where Einsteins work takes over.
But my point in my post was that Luckbox had said, in response to my contention that examining what Freud thought about transgenderism was not worthwhile because he died 85 years ago, so any of his thoughts would be absent 85 years worth of research and studies and social constructs vis a vis that info that current scientists have access to.
He responded that since Freud was one of the most influential minds in psychology ever, that his thoughts on transgender must be relevent today. So I used the example of Newton being one of the most influential minds in history, but some of his ideas have been proven incorrect by later research. Or that asking a doctor who died in 1939 his thoughts on treating bacterial infections would be silly given that antibiotics werent put into common use until the 1940s.
So the overall point I was trying to make (although obviously did so poorly) was that examining the thoughts of a doctor who practiced 100 years ago on a medical condition today is unlikely to shed an informed light on the subject vis a vis the current medical community.
But looking it up it says that while Einstein did show flaws in Newtons work, that Newtons laws hold up fine for as reasonable approximations for what happens in the observable world but dont hold up as you approach the speed of light, which is the area where Einsteins work takes over.
I think of it as more that SR/GR (and QM for small scales) extends Newtonian mechanics as opposed to thinking of it as right or wrong. Newtonian mechanics is a fantastically powerful model of the world. More advanced models still need to reduce to Newtonian mechanics in the case when things aren’t super massive or super fast or whatever.
You asked what you needed to say to get banned. I told you to go to the ban me thread in ATF. You didn't.
But congratulations. You found the magic words. I was surprised, actually because I thought we were having a spirited but civil discussion. But I guess you got bored with that. But whatever your reasons, telling any mod to **** off gets you a temp ban.
He was talking to jjou
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That's a real world issue that affects transgender people every day. Same with the other topics. Your list of topics, otoh, are not issues facing transgender people or cis people today. They are thinly veiled attempts to again question the validity of the existence of transgender people or delegitimize them.
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Also, and I mean this with the upmost respect, but **** off with your "thinly veiled attempts to delegitimize trans people", as if I care about that or that that would be something that interests me.
Then he made a bad call saying **** off and then quoting me.
Iirc I only took one proper psych class and it was Cognitive psych so no Freud and then Social Psych which would have been cross-listed but also no Freud.
I taught an abnormal psych course and mentioned Freud during the "history of psychology" part.
When I took chemistry, they mentioned alchemy.
There are still some weirdos who believe in both.
After reviewing the situation and getting other mod input I have decided to lift Dunyains ban. The policy concerning stricter standards for those getting additional chances after a previous ban remains in place. This was done as an exception to that policy based on the particular situation of this case.
