The costs of trans visibility
Yesterday, Dylan Mulvaney broke her silence: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney/vi....
For context, this is a trans influencer who built a 10 million strong following on TikTok. She took a brand deal with budweiser to post an ad on an instagram, and the anti-trans right went absolutely ballistic, calling for a boycott, condemning the company, and to some perhaps unknowable degree it influenced that Budweiser sales dropped by a 1/4 and
. Dylan speaks more personally about the effect of the hatred on her.
What strikes me about this story is that it is just about visibility. This isn't inclusion in sports or gender-affirming care for minors, it was just that a trans person was visible. This wasn't even visibility in a TV commerical that a poor right-winger is forced to see, it was an ad on her own instagram page. We're all in our own social media algorithm influenced bubbles, but from my vantage point it really has seemed that in the last year or so things have just gotten worse for trans people and the backlash to even minor visibility is growing.
We need to do better.
I'm giving you straight forward answers. There is a reason I'm not a reddit admin or a 2p2 mod. There is a reason I don't write policy or own a business.
1. If I'm admin there are no rules. I stated that pretty clearly. We know this doesn't work and certain topics devolve. I think if someone breaks an explicitly written rule its just though. I didn't break a rule and it was unjust. If someone is getting banned without breaking any
Okay, so you are homophobic and misogynistic, but at least we've established where we disagree (on everything, I guess). I think it's indefensibly cruel to place rape victims in a position where they need to "reframe their trauma" and just deal with males in crisis centers putting hands on them. We should do everything possible to comfort someone who does NOT want to be in close proximity to people who trigger them.
You skipped my earlier question on how you define a "gay marriage." If you don't recognize the immutable sex binary that we belong to, I don't think you can claim to support gay rights/marriage. There's no such thing as same-sex attraction if you promote self-identification as something to overrule sex itself. This is how we wind up with ass-backward and illogical stances that lesbians are bigots for turning down men with dicks.
Sure, there are "trans females", but most of us just call them men because we use objective definitions that are rooted in reality. Our biology is extremely important and it's puzzling that you think it's totally reasonable to abandon it, especially at the expense of so much. But as I said, we'll just need to agree to disagree, I guess.
Thanks for doing your best to answer. Cheers.
It's "trans allies". No space. Please do get the basics right as you spout your, uh, whatever this is.
Listen, my delusional friend, you want men to compete in women’s sports which means you do not want females to be able to enjoy competitive sports. Those broads fought hard for fairness in sports and you’re destroying it.
Oh yEaH aS If sPoRtS HaVe eVeR BeEn fAiR! rEmInD Me wHeN ThEy sEt a hEiGhT MaXiMuM In tHe nBa dUrRrR!! MiChAeL PhElPs bOdY IsN'T FaIr!
Not sure you are right, but if a person has sex with both sexes voluntarily that's definitionally a bi, and it's uncontroversial.
There is a theory that most homosexual are at least a bit bi, even if they lean mostly the opposite sex (or not, depending on them), still bi.
Bi is the underestimate label because it's "too normal" with benefits, doesn't necessarily need to have a life different from hetero people in daily routines and so on, so the "liberation movement" didn't give a **** about them.
Only "pure homosexual" at the beginning were interesting to activists, and now they are too normal anyway so only trans people matter basically.
This is the game the way they play it.
If a chick or a guy likes pussies and dicks, that's bi, definitionally.
Oh yEaH aS If sPoRtS HaVe eVeR BeEn fAiR! rEmInD Me wHeN ThEy sEt a hEiGhT MaXiMuM In tHe nBa dUrRrR!! MiChAeL PhElPs bOdY IsN'T FaIr!
I think females would disagree with you, call you an idiot, and beat you down. They fought hard to have their own sports. You’re trying to ruin that because you have mommy issues and hate all women.
Not sure you are right, but if a person has sex with both sexes voluntarily that's definitionally a bi, and it's uncontroversial.
There is a theory that most homosexual are at least a bit bi, even if they lean mostly the opposite sex (or not, depending on them), still bi.
Bi is the underestimate label because it's "too normal" with benefits, doesn't necessarily need to have a life different from hetero people in daily routines and so on, so t
I don’t know, bro. I’ve laid pipe to a fair number of lesbians. Fact is, when they get a look at my enormous purple-headed mule pecker, they say to themselves, “Madone!” Curiosity gets the best of them and they want to experience it. Some of them come back for more because of what I’m able to do for them. Nomsayin?
I don’t know, bro. I’ve laid pipe to a fair number of lesbians. Fact is, when they get a look at my enormous purple-headed mule pecker, they say to themselves, “Madone!” Curiosity gets the best of them and they want to experience it. Some of them come back for more because of what I’m able to do for them. Nomsayin?
No I don't, a gay won't go with the most sensual of women, a lesbian won't be attracted to an enormous purple headed whatever
Okay, so you are homophobic and misogynistic, but at least we've established where we disagree (on everything, I guess). I think it's indefensibly cruel to place rape victims in a position where they need to "reframe their trauma" and just deal with males in crisis centers putting hands on them. We should do everything possible to comfort someone who does NOT want to be in close proximity to people who trigger them.
You skipped my earlier qu
You’re a scumbag, **** off
Mods, I was quite fairly banned for insulting comments I made in this thread. No disagreement with that. Very soon though I will be going through this thread to report all of the transphobic slurs that I see regularly posted here.
Cancel culture goes both ways on this forum, hopefully.
Mods, I was quite fairly banned for insulting comments I made in this thread. No disagreement with that. Very soon though I will be going through this thread to report all of the transphobic slurs that I see regularly posted here.
Cancel culture goes both ways on this forum, hopefully.
lol, you sweet summer child
Alright, friends.
So we didn't lower the temperature in here as requested and now we have some updates.
Coordi will return to us in 1 day for personal attacks.
Originalgangster will return to us in 3 days for personal attacks as a previously multiple times-banned poster.
Phresh will return to us in 7 days for personal attacks and again denying the existence of transgender people.
Attack the argument, not the person making it. Thanks 😀
Phresh will return to us in 7 days for personal attacks and again denying the existence of transgender people.
Ooh man, he just came back from vacation.
Tweet links to a pretty wild story
Link is here and it's a true horror story
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic...
Complicated legal developments but the custody loss isn't discussed in detail, probably something very important is missing
