The costs of trans visibility

So, if you were king for a day, what is your solution to the transgender 'problem' as you see it and what would be the proper regulation of gender treatment?

there is no trans problem.

just ban all "gender care" practices for minors, and legalize all self modification practices for adults without any prescription needed or license to operate nor anything else (all drugs included), and no public money or legal mandate to insurance at any step.

I had a friend in med school

the AMA came to do a talk. A bunch of the students asked about why they instituted all these artificially low caps on the amount of doctors which could graduate each year and why they forbid foreign trained doctors from working in the USA. The answer was clear, it's about you bottom line. With this artificial scarcity, you're all ensured to be making a floor of 200k a year once you finish your residency.

Buddy felt sad about it, but did console himself that at least he'd never need to worry about money.

wild that so many in the thread are supportive of nazis

Seems like a common sense approach sadly the Dems are not common sense and if you have an opinion like that they kick you out of the cult

being trans is not a medical condition so health care should not be part of the conversation basically

So, none of these treatments should be legal to be performed on minors, not paid for with govt funds or covered medical care under any insurance?

1. Social transition/support therapy
2. Puberty blockers
3. Hormone treatment
4. Surgical care.

the first could be, under the guide of psychological counseling, because being trans isn't a medical condition but living badly your being trans can become a mental health issue, as many other otherwise normal life events and conditions can become problematic at times and justify counseling to minors.

2) to 4) absolutely not exactly, not even thinking about that, for several reasons but mainly because all 50 states don't let you have a ****ing tatoo if you aren't 18, and many a beer if you aren't 21, so it's absurd to even conceive the possibility of 2) to 4) for minors.

not because we are sure they can't benefit from them. I am not. but I am sure the maturity needed to consent to those body modifying procedures is incredibly higher than that required to justify a tattoo or drinking beer.

to be clear and consistent (unlike the current crazy environment) I would ban all aesthetic surgery for minors as well except reconstruction following accidents and the like.

In order to protect minors from their own possibly mistakes, ad we do in other, far less relevant aspects of life, we should wait

I don't think cutting kids off from medical care is the answer. Does Testosterone therapy in kids with hypogonadism count as gender care? Why wouldn't it if you want to say it doesn't?

What does "legalize all self modification practices for adults" mean? It kind of sounds like you want them to perform surgery on themselves

it is not medical care because being trans is not a medical condition.

having a badly formed/developed/performing organ is a medical condition.

as for self modification I mean modifications you ask for yourself and you either implement yourself, or have others implement on you consensually.

That includes but it's not limited to changing your body hormone balance, cutting off and reconstructing body parts, including adding or removing fingers, changing your ears to look like an elf (it's a thing in Korea), change your skin color, your genitals and anything else you want to change.

by Luciom P

or this

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23040706...

I have no clue how this is even remotely relevant other than you want to use it as a piece of propaganda to push your batshit insane narrative that "Doctors" in the US are evil

if that paper wasn't written with specific references to the present, describing how and why physicians are uniquely predisposed to fall prey to very evil ideology and to rationalize the most absurd insane and indefensible propositions about human beings, you might have a point.

So hormone deficiencies aren't a medical condition? Not only are you not a doctor to be making declarations like what is or isn't a medical condition, but you are objectively wrong about that based on your own standards

"You can't trust the medical professionals, they're Nazis," a totally reasonable take and not the product of wildly motivated reasoning.

great tldr since i started with "you can't trust american medical professionals on anything that affects their financial well being, they are doing their best to limit the supply of healthcare to the population using regulatory capture"

you shouldn't really trust that group when it tells you that something requires their intervention and your money to be fixed.

then, and only after that, I added scholarly work about how the medical profession is uniquely predisposed to be captured by nefarious monstrous ideology, because it gains the most by doing so when that ideology is sponsored by government

you know how much we suffered before learning that separation of church and state was fundamental to well being of a nation?

well the clerics now are the "experts" and the biggest and most powerful group of them is in the medical profession (approaching 20% of gdp, 6 times military expenses).

if you ever worried about the "military industrial" complex it's time you realize other complexes took its place

How does the AMA cap the number of med school grads? How could they even do that? Do they assign each med school a max quota of grads each year? I don't see many universities self limiting the number of students the allow in med schools based on some AMA demand. I would th k universities would want the max number of students paying tuition as they could handle.

from Harvard law, typical libertarian outlet, 2022

https://blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.edu/...

but yes the bottleneck is mostly residencies, which are federally financed, AMA just lobbied to finance less than needed

and you know who lobbied for residency to be legally mandatory in order to practice, in all states (which is why foreign doctors can't practice because their degrees are recognized but they are worthless without an American residency)? try to guess.. the AMA!

luciom already addressed it

there are enough upsides to the program that it has enough merits on its own right to continue (quality control and avoiding creation of degree mills or excess capacity - ie nobody wants a black market industry of alleyway doctors popping up by those who are unable to find work - that is understandably not good for anyone

there are 2x+ more law degree graduates each year than available positions for lawyers, this is true for a lot of higher education where the supply outweighs the demand, my brother went to architecture school (a very good one too) and he says less than 1/3 of his classmates ever found work as architects and a surprisingly high amount of people applying to designer jobs at the tech companies i worked with all had masters degrees in architecture

the scarcity of doctors in america is intentional, there's just enough so it's not a crisis and they are always in high demand

I would think it still makes sense to listen to the expert opinions and understand the disagreement, then make a decision rather than simply dismiss them because they are part of the evil AMA empire.

This would seem to contradict your evil AMA restricts the supply of us doctors theory:

The physician-to-population ratio has increased from 277 physicians per 100,000 people in 2010 to 313 physicians per 100,000 people in 2022. Most physicians (89%) have a Doctor of Medicine (MD) degree, with 11% of physicians having a Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine (DO) degree.

Wait, now we are arguing that the AMA is evil by limiting the number of Nazi doctors who will do anything for their own financial gain? I can't keep up.