Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
You seem to be drawing some sort of conclusion about safety nets. If the purpose of the safety nets doesn't have anything to do with the levels, then why bother talking about the purpose?
Because it relates to the point I was making about the proposed national identity. Govt programs are not to be seen as the primary driver for transcending the survival mindset or as an avenue to the good life. That’s not to say they provide no benefit or the safety net should be defunded.
People need to condition themselves out of looking to the political class for solutions.
(1) Remaining in the survival mindset over the long term is immoral (doesn’t lead to lasting goodness).
(2) The political class, like the Catholic Church of old, tries to keep people in a survival mindset.
(3) Continuing along this path will lead to destruction.
Trolly is like that kid from The Sixth Sense, he sees racism and eugenics everywhere.
you're new greg, you'll soon learn trolley is beft treated like a red headed step child and left on ignore
Because it relates to the point I was making about the proposed national identity. Govt programs are not to be seen as the primary driver for transcending the survival mindset or as an avenue to the good life. That’s not to say they provide no benefit or the safety net should be defunded.
People need to condition themselves out of looking to the political class for solutions.
The problem with proposing a national identity is that it's something that has to come about through a cultural evolution. I don't see how that's possible in today's hyperconnected world. Propaganda techniques could be an effective way advancing one but will ultimately fail in a free society. You might enjoy this lecture. It seems to (I think) address some of your concerns about political and social dynamics.
I’m a pluralist and see the secular space as necessary, but..
The underlying idea is that if we take the morally right action, if we do what is right, then we will get closer to the good life (lasting goodness).
The above is kindergarten morality. It’s a basic moral truth. The question I’m asking myself is, “Can the secular not even hold this basic moral truth?”
Is the secular capable of valuing morality over politics? Maybe the answer is no. I wish I knew the answer to this.
