Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
"afaik"
The lack of anecdotal posts from actual Israelis here leads one to believe that there probably aren't any posting now.
The lack of anecdotal posts from actual Israelis here leads one to believe that there probably aren't any posting now.
Sorry, so you're back to saying you DO know?
This is kind of fun.
I'll provide you with an anecdotal post:
Most of the Nova kids were on drugs, it being a rave. So a lot on acid, which is very common in that scene. Lots of them still haven't come out of that state. They've gone more or less insane, after watching their friends slaughtered like dogs at close range for the simple crime of dancing at a rave. A lot of them are killing themselves behind the scenes now sadly, from not having been able to cope with being in the thick of that, on acid. I must admit as terrifying things to do go, that's near the top for me.
Enough please ♥
So a lot on acid, which is very common in that scene. Lots of them still haven't come out of that state.
So that's just obviously not true on its face.
sounds off it's face
So what is the rave scene doing? Mdma?
I'm telling you the psychotic break they're in hasn't ended, for a day. I obviously understand that chemically, the product has worn off.
They have essentially been committed under 24h supervision (in the extreme cases), in some sort of state I don't know the medical term for. PTSD and them some. But I know the amount of them killing themselves is alarmingly high. Like Iraq vets kind of thing. Apparently they still lack sufficient care too.
THAT scene, does a lot of acid. Which again, someone would know if they knew the first thing about that particular scene/place. Then you have people that know about a place exclusively from the little they see on X and Youtube.
edit: first time I Google this, I'm just telling you what I know first hand. But this lines up with what I know
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at...
1700 of them are said to be in some sort of treatment, so I suppose dozens of suicides won't be unusual in such a big number.
I'm telling you the psychotic break they're in hasn't ended, for a day. I obviously understand that chemically, the product has worn off.
They have essentially been committed under 24h supervision, in some sort of state I don't know the medical term for. PTSD and them some. But I know the amount of them killing themselves is alarmingly high. Like Iraq vets kind of thing.
Right, so it's not acid then despite what you said.
I'm saying the fact they experienced THAT day, on acid, was far too much for their brains.
It's one thing to watch it all sober. It's another thing to watch it on cannabis for example. And yet another to be in that hell on acid. The ones that are this catatonic, the doctors are saying the acid played a part. Obviously you don't need acid to be catatonic. But 8 months later to be in the states they're in, is pretty extreme.
And btw Jal, in the Israel thread you mentioned a post where I was coming across as callous or almost gleeful. You're giving that vibe, here.
I'm going to give you both a day off if neither of you can stop this petty back and forth. Moving locations was not the issue.
I'm going to give you both a day off if neither of you can stop this petty back and forth. Moving locations was not the issue.
What's your general recommendation when someone essential denies you your own reality? I guess they call that gas lighting? If I ignore it then it just appears I agree with him. So I'm not sure what to do really. Him and a few others for months have wanted to explain my reality to me. It's very odd.
And I recognize the irony given the Vic stuff.
My recommendation is that you just stop with the personal addendums to your posts, and to let this go or you'll have some time to think about it on your own.
Thank you, friend
ttps://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-...
The Israeli Ministry of Health says that they do not have any information or statistics about the claim made of 50 survivors who have committed suicide.
Interesting, you found it so important to fact check that claim; yet are so willing to accept Al Jazeera propaganda at face value to the point you are just copy pasting it into the I/P thread.
Dunyain, please take a timeout from the thread until 12:00 AM Eastern Time.
I *just* warned you guys to address claims and content, NOT each other.
This is not the 'take it from I/P thread to here' spot. What happens there applies here too. Its enough.
What's your general recommendation when someone essential denies you your own reality? I guess they call that gas lighting? If I ignore it then it just appears I agree with him.
You can publicly disagree once, and then your position is clear. After that, it really is better for the forum and your own mental health to just let a lot of the stuff go.
I apologize for being short with you, Rafiki. I shouldn't have been so abrupt. Gangstaman is correct that disagreeing once and then letting it go is best for everyone, and you certainly aren't being singled out because it seems to be a bit of an issue with all of us, especially in the I/P thread. Thanks for cooperating with me, friend. Hope we can move past this. I really appreciate you. ♥
Dunyain, please take a timeout from the thread until 12:00 AM Eastern Time.
I *just* warned you guys to address claims and content, NOT each other.
This is not the 'take it from I/P thread to here' spot. What happens there applies here too. Its enough.
Crossnerd giving time-outs left and right around here for...I am not even sure what. Browser must be laughing his ass off at us for thinking that he was being heavy-handed.
Timeouts were designed to be the opposite of heavy handed, friend 😀
