Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.

This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.

Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.

Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.

So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.

Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.

So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.

We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.

Thanks.

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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StoppedRainingMen has been banned for 7 days for his history of personal attacks and recent infractions for the same.

Friends, I understand we all have strong feelings about many subjects here, but we *cannot* just speak to one another any which way we want. There are rules for the discourse of the forum, and we all have to abide by them equally.

I apologize for not being here to see the post reports earlier. I haven’t been reading many of the threads outside I/P due to some serious recent events in my personal life. (Everyone is ok) Hopefully I’ll be back on top of things soon.


by Crossnerd P

StoppedRainingMen has been banned for 7 days for his history of personal attacks and recent infractions for the same.

Friends, I understand we all have strong feelings about many subjects here, but we *cannot* just speak to one another any which way we want. There are rules for the discourse of the forum, and we all have to abide by them equally.

I apologize for not being here to see the post reports earlier. I haven’t been reading many of th

Cmon you know this isn’t even remotely true


I can’t even begin to guess which part you believe to be false so… huh?


i don't think he was correct to call you out specifically

but guys like luciom and other right wing posters are pretty much insulted egregiously in nearly half of the posts responding to them

just today we had a lengthy discussion back and forth discussion by many people regarding whether luciom was mentally ill or just room temperature iq

and truth be told, not a single person posting that stuff actually believes any of it, they just hate his ideology and thus have no empathy for someone they consider an enemy so the bullying starts


pretty standard experience for most conservatives here

2p2 is very tribally left, i'm a bill maher liberal myself and that gets me regularly labeled a right wing conservative because the average politics poster is so far down the left side of the USA political spectrum that they think everyone else is a fascist


Bill Maher is a right wing conservative though


by Luckbox Inc P

Bill Maher is a right wing conservative though

What? I believe he's voted dem for every president in the last 30 years. is this some new jargon that I don't know about?


Supporting Democrats puts him on the right, and his stance on the trans amongst other issues makes him a conservative.


by rickroll P

i don't think he was correct to call you out specifically

but guys like luciom and other right wing posters are pretty much insulted egregiously in nearly half of the posts responding to them

just today we had a lengthy discussion back and forth discussion by many people regarding whether luciom was mentally ill or just room temperature iq

and truth be told, not a single person posting that stuff actually believes any of it, they just hate his

I have seen nothing in lucioms posting that would indicate he has empathy for marginalized people or anyone but himself really. Why would posters be expected to treat him with empathy?

I can personally attest to conversing with him very seriously until he insulted me, unprovoked, in a moment of vulnerability. Based on that and his other opinions, I see no reason to not insult him every opportunity that comes up


by Luckbox Inc P

Supporting Democrats puts him on the right, and his stance on the trans amongst other issues makes him a conservative.

Having conservative stances on certain issues while supporting and voting dem your entire adult life doesn't make you a right winger, LB.


by formula72 P

Having conservative stances on certain issues while supporting and voting dem your entire adult life doesn't make you a right winger, LB.

Part of the beauty of the American political system is that you get to be a right winger while thinking that you aren't. Just look at Trolley ffs.


by coordi P

I have seen nothing in lucioms posting that would indicate he has empathy for marginalized people or anyone but himself really. Why would posters be expected to treat him with empathy?

I can personally attest to conversing with him very seriously until he insulted me, unprovoked, in a moment of vulnerability. Based on that and his other opinions, I see no reason to not insult him every opportunity that comes up

There is no requirement for empathy in the forum rules. There is a requirement not to personally insult. I don't think i ever personally insulted you except of calling you a marxist and the like (which for you guys is a compliment so it's allowed i guess).

If i did you should have reported the post, and that still doesn't allow you to insult me back, even if you think you have been insulted.


by Luckbox Inc P

Bill Maher is a right wing conservative though

thanks for proving my point 😀


Maybe move the Covid discussion in election 2024 to the covid thread?


by Luckbox Inc P

Part of the beauty of the American political system is that you get to be a right winger while thinking that you aren't. Just look at Trolley ffs.



by lozen P

Maybe move the Covid discussion in election 2024 to the covid thread?

I tried to tell them repeatedly , but they keep making insane covid claims that i believe require answers. Especially in 2024 when all the data is there, i mean how can people keep claiming in any thread that sweden did bad wrt covid deaths and whatnot? it did best than all according to all reputable sources (or among the top3 depending on details).

It's uncontroversial at this point, we were absolutely right and everyone who said sweden was killing people by not locking down and not doing mandates was absoluetly wrong, completly.

I can't like let them keep lying on one of the most consequential events of the last 50 years, with immense political repercussions, in threads in the political section i think.

Especially when they want to claim a upper moral hand in the present about healthcare issues and politics, after they provenly got completly wrong the most important healthcare issue in generations.


by swampthing P

Good. Luciom's politics and posts are violent. If you genuinely interact with him, he tends to view most people who are even slightly to the left of Mussolini as communists or, in his self-censoring way, as "leftist." He has repeatedly argued that all communists should be imprisoned or even killed. That's before even mentioning his views on race or the LBGTQ+ community. He takes over every discussion with insincere, shallow Google/AI nonsen

Mussolini was very to the left and there are plenty of people who are to his right including most centrist democrats today (and almost all republicans), many center-right people in europe and so on.

Mussolini did many very collectivist things that even centrist democrats disagree with (FROM THE RIGHT). Like nationalizing most banks and "crucial" sectors of the economy (Steel production, ship production and so on).

And you are violating forum rules by creating an alt to comment about me


by rickroll P

i'm a bill maher liberal myself

I hope that doesn't require you to watch him on TV. 😀


by formula72 P

What? I believe he's voted dem for every president in the last 30 years. is this some new jargon that I don't know about?

No the left has labeled him as a conservative. His reply my positions have not changed the left has just gone crazy . Most of it is due to his stance on the trans issue and him calling for Biden not to run again before the knives came out for Biden


Bill Mahr hasn't been funny since the early 90s.


by Trolly McTrollson P

Bill Mahr hasn't been funny since the early 90s.

No idea how Bill Maher stays on television. Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with his takes, his approach is always so smug and cringe-inducing that it is easy to instantly just take the opposite side out of principle. He has also replaced trying to be funny with trying to sound smart, and he doesn't even do that well.


He was a colossal dick to Steve-O, and that is inexcusable regardless of your politics.


Democrats are a large police state, large foreign war party. If you think that is leftist then you’re wrong.

Democracts have 95% of the same policies republicans do. They are both right wing political parties.


Lmao at people that think Dems are leftist.

Dems don’t support the people, they support the companies.


by DonkJr P

No idea how Bill Maher stays on television. Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with his takes, his approach is always so smug and cringe-inducing that it is easy to instantly just take the opposite side out of principle. He has also replaced trying to be funny with trying to sound smart, and he doesn't even do that well.

Sounds like a few posters around here. Insta-cringe


by Crossnerd P

StoppedRainingMen has been banned for 7 days for his history of personal attacks and recent infractions for the same.

Friends, I understand we all have strong feelings about many subjects here, but we *cannot* just speak to one another any which way we want. There are rules for the discourse of the forum, and we all have to abide by them equally.

I apologize for not being here to see the post reports earlier. I haven’t been reading many of th

by PointlessWords P

Cmon you know this isn’t even remotely true

by Crossnerd P

I can’t even begin to guess which part you believe to be false so… huh?

There are not rules of the forum that we all must abide by equally.

That is not grounded in reality.

I would argue against this, but I don’t want to get banned again.

And the fact that I can’t argue something without risk of being banned, yet you can…. Well that’s all the evidence I need.


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