Ukraine-Russia War Take 2
Here is what the preliminary take on the Ukraine thread disappearing is:
The site was hit with a massive spam attack where hundreds of spam threads were created. In the case where, for example, I see a single spam thread and delete it, that is called a soft delete, and mods can still see them but forum members cannot. Those deletion can be undone.
When a massive attack hits with hundreds of threads, an admin uses a different procedure where the hundreds of spam threads are merged and then hard deleted, where the threads are gone, and no note is left behind. As I have mentioned with my own experience of just soft deleting a large number of posts, sometimes a post or thread gets checked or merged accidentally and is deleted by mistake. Dealing with hundreds of spam threads takes a sledgehammer, not a scalpel.
It appears that our Ukraine thread may have gotten caught up in that recent net of spam threads. If so, it is likely gone for good. I cant say this for sure, and am awaiting comments from admins on this issue. Yes, this sucks. And hopefully there was some other software glitch that caused the disappearance, and we may recover it in the future.
But in the meantime, I have created this new Ukraine-Russia War thread to enable the conversation to continue. Obviously continuity with earlier discussions will be lost. There is no way around that. So as best as possible, let's pick up the conversation with recent events and go from there.
If you have any questions about this, please post them in the mod thread, not here. Let's keep this thread going with posts about the war, not the disappearance of the old thread.
Thanks.
Putin brings up a good point regarding who he says blew up the Nord stream pipeline. He says even though many may have wanted to do it, only the United States has the technology to actually do it. I tracked a United States P8 who flew half way around the world and hovered over the blast area within minutes of the actual bombing. A P8 is a "sub hunter" and also has torpedo like missiles which is probably how the attack was carried out. His flight data, including his callsign were all blacked out. Coincidence? I think not, but that's just me.
Putin: "In the war of propaganda it is very difficult to defeat the United States because the Untied States controls all of the worlds media and most of Europ's media ... don't you know that?" (what he's referring to is the Deep State which includes many compromised agencies (we know who they are) as well as the WEF, WHO, et al.
I don't know how something false can be a good point.
Ukraine likely did it without help. There are plenty of countries capable of destroying Nord Stream.
Nord Stream was not blown up by a torpedo
If USA controlled all of the world's media then it would control all of Europe's media because of how words work. It doesn't control Europe's, or the world's, media.
Depth charges , various types of mines
Which you deploy there among NATO countries monitoring without being seen by anyone because you are batman?
it must have been either russia through the pipes themselves, or if it was any western actor it as a minimum had an agreement with the countries that monitor that area.
Which you deploy there among NATO countries monitoring without being seen by anyone because you are batman?
it must have been either russia through the pipes themselves, or if it was any western actor it as a minimum had an agreement with the countries that monitor that area.
No idea but to think the military is going to tell you what happened just because you asked is lol.
Why do you think you’re privy to what the military did or saw?
They aren’t going to tell you if they found something. They are going to lie. Silly
Why do you think you’re privy to what the military did or saw?
They aren’t going to tell you if they found something. They are going to lie. Silly
I don't expect other NATO nations to go public and admit they allowed Ukraine to bomb north stream, if that's what happened.
I am rather saying it's basically impossible that IF Ukraine did that, they did it without explicit approval from the USA and Scandinavian countries.
To be clear, i still think it was the Russians who did it, *burn the bridges* style
I don't expect other NATO nations to go public and admit they allowed Ukraine to bomb north stream, if that's what happened.
I am rather saying it's basically impossible that IF Ukraine did that, they did it without explicit approval from the USA and Scandinavian countries.
To be clear, i still think it was the Russians who did it, *burn the bridges* style
I have no idea what happened. People do things they aren’t supposed to do first and then ask for forgiveness after
It's not as easy to watch the entire Baltic Sea as you think it is. It doesn't take Batman or invisible technology to do something there without anyone noticing for awhile.
I've been saying this "war" was a military operation (I may have added the words "clean-up" to it, which it is) ever since it started and to now hear President Putin say it in his own words should be proof that he's actually fighting the American CIA/Deep State who's also controlled by China and other world organizations. He was able to speak directly to us, the people that live in the United States because he knows how corrupt the media is and will continue with their narrative that Putin wants to take over the world and he's enemy number one. The real enemy is the organizations who are raping this country, it's literally being torn apart and bankrupted by an outside organization but most people are still too far gone and asleep to even realize what's happening (you're slowly being boiled without having a chance to jump out of the pot)
He said he spoke with Biden prior to the military operation, and when asked when he spoke to him last he couldn't really care less because he knows (as much as I do if not more) that Biden is an installed front that has no say or control over anything, so why would Putin wanna speak with him? Putin's at war with his handlers atm.
Putin has been calling it a "special military operation" since before you have. It's a war, no quotation marks needed.
Is your argument that Putin invaded Ukraine to fight the Chinese who are controlling the CIA who is controlling Ukraine? Russia is swiftly becoming a vassal to China, fighting one of the countries that is majorly responsible for keeping Russia afloat would be suicide.
Putin is doing the exact thing you claim he is saving USA from by invading Ukraine. He is installing the organiations that are "raping this country". China is as well, but both Russia and China benefit from this and both of them work together in this effort.
Putin didn't claim that Biden is a puppet in his monologue, but did claim that Zelenskyy is a puppet, then he said that Zelenskyy could of course end the war if he wanted to because he's president. The puppet stuff is targeted towards people like you, but Putin has no consistency with it and uses many other lies, often contradictory, to appeal to all audiences. Your assumptions on why Putin hasn't spoken to Biden since the war broke out are outrageous.
Here is a good report on how Russia targets its propaganda towards those most susceptible to the specific lie, read it before you're slowly boiled alive in the pot you're swimming around in:
Your assumptions on why Putin hasn't spoken to Biden since the war broke out are outrageous.
I agree with you, the truth is definitely outrageous.
It should also make anyone who pays taxes outraged against a gov't that just approved sending another 95 billion to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan (all their puppeteer's strong holds) while not protecting their own borders.
Your assumptions on why Putin hasn't spoken to Biden since the war broke out (if that part is even true), aren't the truth, they're a conspiracy theory which makes absolutely no sense as I pointed out in the previous post.
The government has not agreed to send 95 billion to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan despite the majority of the population believing this to be the correct thing to do. Johnson will likely refuse to even allow a vote on it so that Trump will benefit when he runs for president again. This is very much to Putin's liking.
Your assumptions on why Putin hasn't spoken to Biden since the war broke out (if that part is even true), aren't the truth, they're a conspiracy theory which makes absolutely no sense as I pointed out in the previous post.
The government has not agreed to send 95 billion to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan despite the majority of the population believing this to be the correct thing to do. Johnson will likely refuse to even allow a vote on it so t
I thought the polls said otherwise. Heck 3-4 Dems did not vote for it
95 billion for a war they will never win
Last I saw majority of republican votes were in favor, and that was according to Fox. Democrats are obviously in favor.
The bill passed in the senate, so it doesn't really matter if a few dems did not support it. If it's really not going to be passed in the house then Johnson doesn't need to block it again and again.
They are not getting 95 billion from this package. They absolutely can win, and if they can't win then they can certainly at least not lose.
There's a typo in my last post, "majority of republican voters", I meant the people who vote for republican candidates, not the republican representatives.
Final vote in the senate was 70 to 29 fwiw.
If USA controlled all of the world's media then it would control all of Europe's media because of how words work. It doesn't control Europe's, or the world's, media.
of course it does. if putin says it does then it must be right.
otherwise he wouldnt be saying it interviewed by tucker carlson.
I don't know how something false can be a good point.
Ukraine likely did it without help. There are plenty of countries capable of destroying Nord Stream.
Nord Stream was not blown up by a torpedo
Ukraine did it? yes I think so.
Anyone could have done it, but there is german intel and a report that ukraine did it published in the NYT.
That was the big story until everyone forgot about it imo.
Ukraine did not have the technology to do it without our help and just to be clear, Ukraine is controlled by the United States anyway (as Putin recently confirmed) and the NYT is a propaganda arm for the DS power structure.
FWIW, I'm putting this out there that there's a rumor going around in my sector that the deep state is planning a false flag event which will be blamed on Russia so if something happens don't automatically assume it's Russia's fault only because that's what they're saying on the news.
Ukraine did not have the technology to do it without our help and just to be clear, Ukraine is controlled by the United States anyway (as Putin recently confirmed) and the NYT is a propaganda arm for the DS power structure.
FWIW, I'm putting this out there that there's a rumor going around in my sector that the deep state is planning a false flag event which will be blamed on Russia so if something happens don't automatically assume it's Rus
Are they going to blow up another pipeline ?
I'm confirming that Ukraine is not controlled by USA.
I will also predict that Russia will be blamed for something at some time.
I'll go even further and say that Ukraine too will be blamed for something at some time.
