Ukraine-Russia War Take 2
Here is what the preliminary take on the Ukraine thread disappearing is:
The site was hit with a massive spam attack where hundreds of spam threads were created. In the case where, for example, I see a single spam thread and delete it, that is called a soft delete, and mods can still see them but forum members cannot. Those deletion can be undone.
When a massive attack hits with hundreds of threads, an admin uses a different procedure where the hundreds of spam threads are merged and then hard deleted, where the threads are gone, and no note is left behind. As I have mentioned with my own experience of just soft deleting a large number of posts, sometimes a post or thread gets checked or merged accidentally and is deleted by mistake. Dealing with hundreds of spam threads takes a sledgehammer, not a scalpel.
It appears that our Ukraine thread may have gotten caught up in that recent net of spam threads. If so, it is likely gone for good. I cant say this for sure, and am awaiting comments from admins on this issue. Yes, this sucks. And hopefully there was some other software glitch that caused the disappearance, and we may recover it in the future.
But in the meantime, I have created this new Ukraine-Russia War thread to enable the conversation to continue. Obviously continuity with earlier discussions will be lost. There is no way around that. So as best as possible, let's pick up the conversation with recent events and go from there.
If you have any questions about this, please post them in the mod thread, not here. Let's keep this thread going with posts about the war, not the disappearance of the old thread.
Thanks.
That battalion fights under a Jewish president, so it can be as much rightwing as you want but it isn't antisemite
Can you show me the definition of antisemitism and show me where it says one can’t be an antisemite if you’re working or led by one?
Nazis weren’t antisemites cause Hitler was Jewish, is that right?
Azov Battalion no longer exists...
Was it last week that I was accused of being biased because I talked about Israeli trauma leading to extremism but not Palestinian trauma leading to extremism even though I've actually talked about both?
I am pretty sure that the current ratios of a certain group here are 100% talking about Ukrainian neo-nazis, and 0% Russian. I would love that group to apply their own logic to themselves and see what conclusions they come up with, especially since Russia employs far more neo Nazi, far right elements.
Russia has/had a Nazi battalion?
"The unit has drawn controversy since its founding over its early and allegedly continuing association with far-right groups and neo-Nazi ideology, and its use of controversial symbols linked to Nazism.["
Can you show me the definition of antisemitism and show me where it says one can’t be an antisemite if you’re working or led by one?
Nazis weren’t antisemites cause Hitler was Jewish, is that right?
Under antisemitism you hate all Jews and if you are a real antisemite you want them all dead (with pain and torture when possible), extirpated from humanity as a cancer that requires surgery, and all your actions are toward that outcome.
You never deal with them positively not even in the short term, and you certainly never serve under them, you prefer to rebel and risk death that to ever obey the order of a Jew, if you are a Nazi.
It's literally impossible to be a Nazi and to serve in the military of a country led by a Jew.
Rusich, Wagner, Africa Corps, Night Wolves, Espanyol
Wagner/ Africa Corps consists of several battalions.
I do not know the name of the battalions in Wagner. I cannot name a single Russian battalion. What importance is the name to you?
You asked if Russia has/had any and you have been answered.
Fair enough.
But we arent funding wagner.
And asov is blatently obviously the national official army.
Everytjing you accuse Wagner and Co of
Asov is at least as bad probably worse,
Yet you claim to be the good guys.
Azov is not the official national army.
Azov has not invaded Ukraine in the largest war since ww2.
Of course it is.
Its not only part of it, it is the most essential part of it. Without it, the war would long be over.
I do not know the name of the battalions in Wagner. I cannot name a single Russian battalion. What importance is the name to you?
You asked if Russia has/had any and you have been answered.
You haven’t listed any battalions that are known to be Nazi battalions , like azov is or was for Ukraine.
Of course it is.
Its not only part of it, it is the most essential part of it. Without it, the war would long be over.
No
It's less than 1% of the military...
You haven’t listed any battalions that are known to be Nazi battalions , like azov is or was for Ukraine.
I've listed several: every batallion in Wagner. No I do not know their exact names, do you think this proves they don't exist? I can't name a single Russian batallion, do you think this means Russia does not have a military?
Explain WHY you wish to know the name and maybe we can find another solution.
it doesnt matter but you guys are saying russia has a nazi battalion like azov and Im asking for the name
so vulnerable
it doesnt matter but you guys are saying russia has a nazi battalion like azov and Im asking for the name
just found this one!
Not a battalion
I know this isn't as bad as someone having done a Nazi salute, but worth mentioning:
not true. much of the world is actively encouraging or even escalating the confict.
Yeah like Iran, N Korea, and China.
Was more focused on the bomb though. Truly awful.
