Politics and Society Moderation Discussion Only Fans Thread
Hello everyone. I've closed the previous mod thread, and opened this to capture all issues related to moderation policies and actions going forward. I'll kick it off by reposting my intro post from the other thread. Again, I'm happy to be here and look forward to hearing from you.
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Hello everyone.
I'm very pleased to have the opportunity to serve as a moderator in Politics and Society. I asked for this position because I believe we are experiencing a polarization in our politics and society unseen since the 1960s. We may well be at a juncture from which we will either make great progress or suffer great setbacks in regards to our democratic foundations and civil rights over the next few years. So I believe it is important to maintain a forum for discussing these important topics. When the other mods had to step back a bit due to their real life time obligations, I asked to join the mod team to help keep the forum going.
I have not followed this forum in the past, though I have been reading through threads the last few days and made a few posts. This has allowed me to get a sense of the initial impression the forum likely makes on new readers who are deciding if our forum is a place they would like to visit regularly and participate in. While I see some familiar names from the live poker forum, many of you I have not had any interaction with to date. I have no preconceived notions of anyone's posting behavior and will essentially start from a clean slate.
I will shortly post more about my modding approach and give my initial impressions of the forum based on my observations over the last several days. I will be soliciting your input on things you like about the forum that you want to remain, and things you don't like that you would like me to change. Your candid input and feedback is very important to me. Especially, please don't hesitate to let me know if you think a policy or a proposal is a bad idea. I'd rather hear it before it goes into effect than after.
My overall modding principle is simple: Be Nice. Disagreement need not be disrespectful, and everyone must be treated with respect. Calling a poster derogatory names or hurling snarky insults never usefully advances a discussion. It just bogs things down and turns off many would be participants. And it's not nice. Don't do it.
My goal is to have a forum where people with a wide variety of opinions along the political spectrum enjoy expressing and debating their views in a spirited manner, free from insults, bigotry and denigrating comments. If you enjoy discussing these important and often polarizing issues in a passionate, yet respectful manner, I look forward to getting to know you and working with you to create a forum people will enjoy visiting and contributing to. You can be as committed, determined and relentless as you like in advocating for your position. Be persuasive, thought provoking and challenging. But be nice.
I want to thank tame_deuces and King Spew for their support in bringing me onboard and for all the time and effort they have put into making the forum better. While I am taking over most of the day to day modding responsibilities, both are retaining their mod status and superpowers, and will be supporting the forum as their availability permits. And I personally welcome their continued advice and feedback.
Again, I am happy to be here and look forward to getting to know you.
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Fortunately I received my bachelor of science degree in bacteriology prior to going into the Army, and had a couple of genetics classes along the way. And I dont recall stating anywhere that people can be easily and neatly consigned to one or another race, as you suggest I did.
Only slighted has that power. Ask him
Fortunately I received my bachelor of science degree in bacteriology prior to going into the Army, and had a couple of genetics classes along the way. And I dont recall stating anywhere that people can be easily and neatly consigned to one or another race, as you suggest I did.
None of this explains why you're allowing 2p2 to become a hate site.
2p2 reflects the standard opinions of the public. and really, the opinions on Arabs and Muslims and Palestinians is mild here when compared to what people say elswhere.
If you truly believe that then you should pm the owners or a higher admin like Mike Haven and let them know how you feel and seek my removal as a mod. If you show them evidence to convince them your accusation is true, and they agree with you, I will gladly step down.
If you truly believe that then you should pm the owners or a higher admin like Mike Haven and let them know how you feel and seek my removal as a mod. If you show them evidence to convince them your accusation is true, and they agree with you, I will gladly step down.
I'm not interested in speaking with your manager. And I'm not interested in forcing anyone out. I have asked, in good faith, why you're allowing this kind of anti-Arab hate here, and I think I'm entitled to a serious answer instead of this unserious "pAleStInEaN iSn'T a RaCe" deflection.
I'm not interested in speaking with your manager. And I'm not interested in forcing anyone out. I have asked, in good faith, why you're allowing this kind of anti-Arab hate here, and I think I'm entitled to a serious answer instead of this unserious "pAleStInEaN iSn'T a RaCe" deflection.
They allow phrases like zionist wastes of life and calling jews nazis too
Just ignore the ignorant people that do it. It's been much more enjoyable since i have
Yet every standardized test we took as kids had Asian as a bubble for race. You guys just can’t go back and forth making these crazy sharp distinctions between race, ethnicity what is and isn’t a racial classification and then also pretend like words have meaning so that there is no context in which Asian as a race is valid. It’s so stupid I think even you are trolling purposely now.
Yet every standardized test we took as kids had Asian as a bubble for race. You guys just can’t go back and forth making these crazy sharp distinctions between race, ethnicity what is and isn’t a racial classification and then also pretend like words have meaning so that there is no context in which Asian as a race is valid. It’s so stupid I think even you are trolling purposely now.
The three races used to be caucasoid, mongoloid, and negroid
But as we said, it's a social.construct but who cares
Haha that definitely mirrors my brief experiences with pist reporting. Had a mid tell me a post saying ‘X’ wasn’t actually saying ‘X’ only to have the guy who made the post cone and say of course I was saying ‘X’.
OK. And now to the Dunyain post that trolly posted along with calling Dunyain a racist clown.
I went back and reread the posts before and after these. Basically the topic under discussion was which country or international organization would be a good choice to occupy and establish some sort of security/controlling presence after the fighting stops. Various options were floated with discussion as to whether those countries either could do i
I'm not interested in speaking with your manager. And I'm not interested in forcing anyone out. I have asked, in good faith, why you're allowing this kind of anti-Arab hate here, and I think I'm entitled to a serious answer instead of this unserious "pAleStInEaN iSn'T a RaCe" deflection.
Here is the response I posted referencing the post by Dunyain that was reported and you posted about itt. As you can see, I hardly simply said that Palestinians arent a race" and left it that. I gave a detailed explanation of each term used and my thoughts on it from a moderation perspective.
If you dont agree with my assessment that's fine. But to characterize my response as "this unserious Palestinian isnt a race deflection" is innacurate and misleading.
Are you referring to your recent post report where you said a poster had called you a certain name?
If so, I pm'd you and told you I was prepared to ban that poster but wanted to clarify something because given the wording of the post it was possible you misread it and he was actually calling a public figure that name. So I asked you to take another look and lmk if you still thought the insult was directed at you.
You havent replied to my pm so I havent taken any action. So if you are referring to that post report, your description of my response is completely false. If you are referring to a different one pls lmk which one.
Thanks
Here is the response I posted referencing the post by Dunyain that was reported and you posted about itt. As you can see, I hardly simply said that Palestinians arent a race" and left it that. I gave a detailed explanation of each term used and my thoughts on it from a moderation perspective.
If you dont agree with my assessment that's fine. But to characterize my response as "this unserious Palestinian isnt a race deflection" is innacurate
Correction: your response was two parts: an unserious "Palestine isn't a race" deflection, and then a rather disturbing explanation for why you think it's actually defensible to call Palestinians "tribal, violent, homicidal and radicalized."
It's clear that these kinds of crude anti-Arab slurs coming from a permabanned racist troll are going to continue to be allowed here, and I think that's offensive and against sitewide rules.
PS: As mets has pointed out, this "ossie" guy is very clearly Jack Hi, who was recently banned for being a literal neo-Nazi.
Are you referring to your recent post report where you said a poster had called you a certain name?
If so, I pm'd you and told you I was prepared to ban that poster but wanted to clarify something because given the wording of the post it was possible you misread it and he was actually calling a public figure that name. So I asked you to take another look and lmk if you still thought the insult was directed at you.
You havent replied to my p
Wasn't worth the hassle
He said multiple times the expression "Zionist Human Excrement "
If you found that acceptable in any way shape or form there was nothing to argue
Wasn't worth the hassle
He said multiple times the expression "Zionist Human Excrement "
If you found that acceptable in any way shape or form there was nothing to argue
I responded to your post report. I said I was prepared to ban the guy. I made no judgement on any other matter. I guess you realized you misread the post so you didnt respond. And then you posted a false description of how I handled the matter. Butnow you are trying to deflect because the facts dont fit your desired narrative.
Im fine with people who disagree with my actions. But pls dont make **** up.
I don't know if i missread the intention or not
I didn't care
Zionist human excrement
"He wasn't calling you that, he was calling Netanyahu that"
Ok you win
Like human excrement itself whatever
Zionist human excrement... ok if its towards bibi, not if it's towards a poster?
I assumed that was your stance and didn't care to research further
I'm sorry i rebrought it up
"Zionist" is technically not a race, so he's in the clear.
Zionist was nowhere in the reported post insult. Mets added that for dramatic effect. Just another misrepresentation of what actually was said and done.
