ex-President Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at low-info Boomers like my religions aunts. I have two questions:
a) Is anyone here who supports Trump bothered by lies like this?
b) Does anyone know what he's even talking about here? Like is there some grain of truth that he's embellishing on bigly?
What does the late 19th century have to do with the present and why would you want to go back there? Do you feel it was some kind of golden age?
Keep in mind the idea is that all property rights violations become crimes if intent to benefit from the violation is proven, in my model. The sacrality of property is such that society moved toward criminalizing all property right violations as property gets seen as an extension of the human body and treated with the same deference, in my model.
So there is damage compensation to the damaged party, which i think it's still proper to keep li
You are thinking about all infringement on property rights as a form of obvious theft. That's why criminalization seems like such a trivially easy solution to you. But large disputes in the real world almost always are more complicated.
Imagine that I buy a piece of property that is adjacent to your property. I want to drill for natural gas on my property. Before doing so, I consult a lawyer to assess the risk that I will sued for unlawfully depleting the natural gas reserves beneath your property. The lawyer tells me that my position is not bulletproof, but in his estimation, there is approximately a 75% chance that a judge/jury will conclude that I acted within my rights. I decide to proceed.
Should I be subject to criminal liability if a court determines that I did, in fact, violate your property rights. My conduct in drilling for natural gas obviously was intentional. I obviously intended to benefit from my conduct. And I engaged in the activity with an awareness that there was a non-trivial chance that a court/jury would conclude that I had violated your property rights. Is my conduct the sort of conduct that you want to deter?
Age of consent and all the related consequences is completly orthogonal to everything else we discussed up to this point so i don't understand why you bring up children working at 10 (which was normal in all societies at that stage of development, and was everywhere in the world before that as well, so please pause a second your rethoric) as something that would come out of the role of the goverment using the 19th century model.
You said that you wanted to go back to the model where the main function of government is to protect the property rights of citizens. That model presumably would eliminate modern child labor laws. That doesn't mean child labor would be as prevalent in the modern world as it was in England in 1850, but it does suggest that a completely free market doesn't inevitably lead to socially desirable outcomes.
Again any negative considerations you have about the legal system apply the same if we solve "don't pollute my river" with tort law, or with regulation.
You (the state, or the private party in my model if it's private property rights being damaged) still have to prove the violation in court.
There is no escape from that under a rule-of-law framework.
Alternative is you give dictatorial powers to some entities and they decide arbitrarily who v
To a large extent this is true which is why public ownership is the only good solution for the important stuff. Law and regulation can never bridge the gap between the interest of private companies and the interests of the public
Regulation has a different role to law but poor regulation adds extra problems. We've seen this in banking, investing, water etc etc etc. Large companies run rings around these regulators who effectively protect the perpetrators, at best, until it's far too late. The focus needs to be on good/effective regulation where we rely on it (not the existence or not of law/regulation)
Policing is also vital.
I am not an AC deluded person, just a minarchist.
Btw in the situation described the aggrieved party is a public entity so more powerful than any single corporation that might be acting improperly on public land.
There is also the fact that in minarchism the defense of property rights should be stronger than today, so draconian penalties should be imagined for acts that destroy the value of others' property.
So, in your world the State of Louisiana owns British Petroleum and distributes it’s assets to its residents like shareholders?
I mean Jesus Christ
This is your delusional MAGA army
A 14-minute video titled “Mohn’s Militia—Call to Arms for American Patriots” appeared on YouTube on Tuesday afternoon. In the video, a man identified as 32-year-old Justin Mohn, sits at a desk in a bedroom wearing plastic gloves. He picks up a severed head, wrapped in plastic. “This is the head of Mike Mohn,” he says to the camera. “A federal employee of over 20 years, and my father.”
“The federal government has declared war on America’s citizens and the American states,” he said. “America is rotting from the inside, as far-left woke mobs ravage our once prosperous country.”
Just another night on Newsmax or Elon’s Twitter feed. But with severed heads!
So dude gets a $5 million judgement against him for defamation and responds by going all out and getting an $83 million judgement for the same thing months later, yet people like Brian and lozen think he has sound judgment that is fitting for the office of POTUS. 🤣🤣
It’s ok for trump .
I suspect big portion of this penalty will be paid by maga followers, again .
So, in your world the State of Louisiana owns British Petroleum and distributes it’s assets to its residents like shareholders?
In my world a consortium composed by the state of Louisiana and several other parties (public and private) get assigned ownership of all BP stock then they use it as they see fit/as their governance allows (in my model public entities shouldn't own assets unrelated to the production of the core services they have to provide. So a state can own barracks but not an energy company).
And a lot of people in BP get sentenced to death/life no parole (I would estimate more than 50, less than 200 people)
So dude gets a $5 million judgement against him for defamation and responds by going all out and getting an $83 million judgement for the same thing months later, yet people like Brian and lozen think he has sound judgment that is fitting for the office of POTUS. 🤣🤣
It'll get overturned on appeal.
Donald Trump’s lawyer Alina Habba demanded Monday that the judge presiding over E. Jean Carroll’s defamation case against the former president provide “all of the relevant facts” related to an alleged conflict of interest he had with the advice columnist’s lead counsel.
This guy was batshit crazy before MAGA was a thing, according to his college roommate.
Crazy people have been doing crazy things for as long as there have been people. If there were a literal army of MAGA warriors out there decapitating federal employees, I feel like we'd have seen more than 1 headless fed by now.
This guy's story will get picked up by one of the many true crime murder shows on a streaming service, and he'll be added right alongside the many many thousands of other unmedicated nutjobs who kill their family members in the name of whatever grand cause they believe justifies it.
We should jail every person associated with him which includes anyone that shares:
his favorite presidential candidate
his shoe size
his religion
his hair color
his height
his weight
As well as anyone from his hometown, went to any level of schooling with him or drives the same make and model car as him.
In a country of 333M people I think one person killing a family member is too much and enough is enough. We should do this every time someone kills a family member until we can eliminate each of these variables that could be causing people to kill family members.
SRM, I know since you posted this nonsense and tried to act like murdering a family member is somehow unique to MAGA that you aren't real bright so just to be clear everything I posted here is a joke making fun of you for saying something so stupid.
It'll get overturned on appeal.
Actually many legal experts say it will not as his lawyer did such a crappy job there is nothing to base the appeal on
Alina Habba is walking back those comments as well
We should jail every person associated with him which includes anyone that shares:
his favorite presidential candidate
his shoe size
his religion
his hair color
his height
his weight
As well as anyone from his hometown, went to any level of schooling with him or drives the same make and model car as him.
In a country of 333M people I think one person killing a family member is too much and enough is enough. We should do this every time someone kil
Appreciate you giving me the green light to no longer pretend to humor your Rodgers bullshit
GL in life my dude
It'll get overturned on appeal.
I have no idea whether there are any appealable issues in this case. Punitive damages often are reduced on appeal.
That said, the chances that the verdict will be vacated based on the alleged conflict described in that NY Post article are less than 1% imo. I probably would need 1000 to 1 odds before I would bet on that being the basis of a successful appeal.
Actually many legal experts say it will not as his lawyer did such a crappy job there is nothing to base the appeal on
Alina Habba is walking back those comments as well
That's one of Trump's worst flaws.
Supposedly, someone who managed various businesses should at least be good at delegating jobs around, even if at the core he is just a salesman, with the right conditions it might suffice.
But Trump looked terrible at delegating. Many people he nominated worked directly from day one against his agenda. Others tried their "best" to satisfy their master but were weak puppets incapable at their jobs.
That doesn't apply to all of them (Gorsuch is a genius, Powell is decent) but the exceptions are usually people other interests convinced Trump to nominate.
Rococo I want to answer you as I am pleased you engaged in detail with my takes but I want to give you my best answer which is why I need to be at my PC so I'll answer tomorrow
That's one of Trump's worst flaws.
Supposedly, someone who managed various businesses should at least be good at delegating jobs around, even if at the core he is just a salesman, with the right conditions it might suffice.
But Trump looked terrible at delegating. Many people he nominated worked directly from day one against his agenda. Others tried their "best" to satisfy their master but were weak puppets incapable at their jobs.
That doesn'
Hiring Habba wasn't a strategic error by Trump. Trump no longer has access to good lawyers.
Appreciate you giving me the green light to no longer pretend to humor your Rodgers bullshit
GL in life my dude
You know that your posts suggests that trump is somehow causing whack jobs to be whack jobs like crazies are somehow new to this country in the last 8 years. Your delusions are worse than Godgers when he is on the shrooms (or whatever it is he takes) in a pitch black room.
It'll get overturned on appeal.
Sounds as if Trump’s idiot attorney did not even conduct a pre trial investigation and figure out that the judge and the opposing counsel were previously members of the same law firm.
Sounds as if Trump’s idiot attorney did not even conduct a pre trial investigation and figure out that the judge and the opposing counsel were previously members of the same law firm.
She probably did know. Without even checking, I could have told you that Robbie Kaplan and Judge Kaplan had both worked at Paul Weiss. And I obviously don't represent Trump.
In any case, it doesn't matter. There is no way that Judge Kaplan would have recused himself on that basis.
