The costs of trans visibility
Yesterday, Dylan Mulvaney broke her silence: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney/vi....
For context, this is a trans influencer who built a 10 million strong following on TikTok. She took a brand deal with budweiser to post an ad on an instagram, and the anti-trans right went absolutely ballistic, calling for a boycott, condemning the company, and to some perhaps unknowable degree it influenced that Budweiser sales dropped by a 1/4 and
. Dylan speaks more personally about the effect of the hatred on her.
What strikes me about this story is that it is just about visibility. This isn't inclusion in sports or gender-affirming care for minors, it was just that a trans person was visible. This wasn't even visibility in a TV commerical that a poor right-winger is forced to see, it was an ad on her own instagram page. We're all in our own social media algorithm influenced bubbles, but from my vantage point it really has seemed that in the last year or so things have just gotten worse for trans people and the backlash to even minor visibility is growing.
We need to do better.
Ummm. Regulatory capture isn't quite the same thing as being a Nazi. And being a recipient of regulatory capture doesn't have much to do with transgender stuff either way.
Not advertising, but I can perform frontal lobotomies. It isn't that hard, and I don't appreciate the AMA not allowing me to do it. Once this thread succeeds in fixing the system, I'll put up my shingle.
I also once banged a nail into a board as a union laborer when it was clear that only union carpenters were allowed to do so. I am a rebel, the likes of which you have never seen.
It's not a Canadian path (we wish!), it's just the path taken by the most right-wing Canadian state, the rest are in a much worse condition afaik.
Btw no reread the above, puberty blockers "care" will be absolutely banned to everyone before or during puberty.
Not exactly the "care being available to everyone" thing
Its not perfect but I don't expect things to be perfect when compromise is necessary. Ideally you get everyone aligned to provide necessary guidance and care regardless of age, but if we are going to compromise then limiting transition until 16 is acceptable to me as long as ancillary care is available
Puke_master is about as loony left as they come. I find it very hard to believe that he is actually that brainwashed and not just trolling.
Funny, every time I read one of your drive-by contributions I also think “I find it very hard to believe that he is actually that brainwashed and not just trolling.” While I disagree with some of his views, I give Uke credit for exceeding your humanity using any measurement available.
Its not perfect but I don't expect things to be perfect when compromise is necessary. Ideally you get everyone aligned to provide necessary guidance and care regardless of age, but if we are going to compromise then limiting transition until 16 is acceptable to me as long as ancillary care is available
You are both wrong, which is nice.
coordi it's expected that leftists disagree, I am not sure what your point is.
given the left ideas on trans issues (at least in the USA and Canada), which are the polar opposite of everything that's moral, decent, proper and defensible on the topic, if a law passes that doesn't get universal whining by every leftist then it would be a terrible law.
not you, the country is, and if you want things to change you have to find a political candidate proposing what I wrote.
which afaik doesn't yet exist in the two main parties
I probably actually support the opposite of what you do with regards to healthcare, because it's a combination of things most people seem to hate. Universal coverage, paid for by the government, but with very strict limits on the amount of medical care provided for each person (rationing, basically). No spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep someone alive for another year.
I probably actually support the opposite of what you do with regards to healthcare, because it's a combination of things most people seem to hate. Universal coverage, paid for by the government, but with very strict limits on the amount of medical care provided for each person (rationing, basically). No spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep someone alive for another year.
you support the italian, spanish, french and so on system i get it.
I am not sure you realize that also implies you wait 6 months to be seen by a specialist if your matter is not life/death.
you support the italian, spanish, french and so on system i get it.
I am not sure you realize that also implies you wait 6 months to be seen by a specialist if your matter is not life/death.
I don't know why that would be necessary, given that we already have more than enough specialists in the US. I at least hope the decisions could be made more efficiently than that, but I am no expert on the topic.
I don't know why that would be necessary, given that we already have more than enough specialists in the US. I at least hope the decisions could be made more efficiently than that, but I am no expert on the topic.
I mean it happens every where they have single payer and rationing, why wouldn't it happen in the USA?
Keep in mind a private market would still exist, and given rationing by the public, all the best physicians won't work for the public rationed system.
The standard of care would be worse than medicaid for the public one
coordi it's expected that leftists disagree, I am not sure what your point is.
given the left ideas on trans issues (at least in the USA and Canada), which are the polar opposite of everything that's moral, decent, proper and defensible on the topic, if a law passes that doesn't get universal whining by every leftist then it would be a terrible law.
This is what I mean when I say that you make it hard to give you credit for anything even slightly reasonable
Sadly this trans child is like all Albertans getting mental health support is difficult for everyone.
Overall Canadas medical system is in total disarray including mental health services
It's sad. If only politicians stopped making it worse showboating to their constituents with anti-trans legislations that makes it harder for a trans kid to feel safe coming out to their parents when living in transphobic households or for teachers to include LGBT content authentically in their lessons.
It's sad. If only politicians stopped making it worse showboating to their constituents with anti-trans legislations that makes it harder for a trans kid to feel safe coming out to their parents when living in transphobic households or for teachers to include LGBT content authentically in their lessons.
So you would support a 16 year old getting gender affirming treatments without parental consent ? Which is currently going on
It's sad. If only politicians stopped making it worse showboating to their constituents with anti-trans legislations that makes it harder for a trans kid to feel safe coming out to their parents when living in transphobic households or for teachers to include LGBT content authentically in their lessons.
"Anti trans legislation" lol, just normal common sense rules as they were everywhere in the civilized world 20 years ago (actually in most places rules were stricter).
Please stop this non sense of calling the totality of human societies in history "except the magical ultra leftists of the 21th century" anti trans.
If something wasn't common sense morality 20 years ago anywhere, nor in any major party left or right, then maybe, maybe, those who are on the wrong side of history are almost certainly those wanting to change dramatically
I mean it happens every where they have single payer and rationing, why wouldn't it happen in the USA?
Keep in mind a private market would still exist, and given rationing by the public, all the best physicians won't work for the public rationed system.
The standard of care would be worse than medicaid for the public one
Nah, I wouldn't allow the private market.
So you would support a 16 year old getting gender affirming treatments without parental consent ? Which is currently going on
You are confusing two very - very - different things. I opposed teachers being forced to out a trans kid to their parents if a student confides in them at school because this dampens the ability to create a supportive environment at schools for trans kids who might be experiencing awful transphobic home lives. But that is obviously not the same as advocating for gender affirming treatments without parental consent!
"Anti trans legislation" lol, just normal common sense rules as they were everywhere in the civilized world 20 years ago (actually in most places rules were stricter).
Please stop this non sense of calling the totality of human societies in history "except the magical ultra leftists of the 21th century" anti trans.
If something wasn't common sense morality 20 years ago anywhere, nor in any major party left or right, then maybe, maybe, those w
This is a weird argument for at least two reasons. The first is that many of these are *new* laws; not overturning a previous law enacted 20 years ago say that was more permissive of trans people. These are new restrictions on trans people that didn't exist previously in the law.
But more importantly, why would I care what happened 20 years ago or 200 years ago? Today we have marriage equality for LGBT people. 20 years ago we didn't. The homophobic marriage laws of 20 years ago were not "common sense morality" that we should celebrate.
You are confusing two very - very - different things. I opposed teachers being forced to out a trans kid to their parents if a student confides in them at school because this dampens the ability to create a supportive environment at schools for trans kids who might be experiencing awful transphobic home lives. But that is obviously not the same as advocating for gender affirming treatments without parental consent!
My sister brought up this point and says what if the teacher isn't comfortable lying to the parents ?
Ok so lets say a 14 year child born as Luke says to the teacher I want to be called Mary and she/her pronouns and do not tell my parents . Well we have report cards and parent teacher conferences. What is that teacher to do refer to Mary as Luke and he/him ?
