ex-President Trump

ex-President Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at low-info Boomers like my religions aunts. I have two questions:

a) Is anyone here who supports Trump bothered by lies like this?

b) Does anyone know what he's even talking about here? Like is there some grain of truth that he's embellishing on bigly?

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by Luciom P

Nah, not with random ppl in shops lol.

Anyway, doesn't matter, she says he says and if you dislike him you are going to believe her.

I don't not because I like him but because rape allegations have been abused since forever to destroy people and i won't believe any unless it comes from a person I personally know and trust, if there is no direct unassailable evidence.

They took Kevin Spacey down, I don't forget.

that feeling is persuasive to some i guess. that menimist bullshit about false rape accusations is a thing especially in the incel community.


by Slighted P

that feeling is persuasive to some i guess. that menimist bullshit about false rape accusations is a thing especially in the incel community.

The incel community is the only male community which isn't touched by the weaponization of rape accusations because you know, they don't even come close to women.


by Rococo P

This isn't the legal standard.

What is it then in NYS?


by Slighted P

why would you think that two people already on the same side who have no reason to be impartial having an affair would matter to the merits of the case?

I disagree that they have “no reason to be impartial”, if you’re trying to say they’re on the same side anyways so what does it matter.

My understanding is the entire point of appointing non-DA employees is to ensure that the charging decision and prosecution as a whole is impartial. The DA is an elected political figure who could be perceived as having personal interest in the outcome, which is the main reason why an “independent counsel” is brought on in the first place. There’s supposed to be like a Chinese wall between those guys and the normal DA people.

If they are lying about when the relationship started, then the DA hired someone she had a romantic interest in, paid him with government funds, and took trips with him partially paid for by those funds.

The DA didn’t bring the charges then hire outside guns to try the case. The entire management of the case was supposed to be isolated from the start.


by Luciom P

Even people who hate him should realize that's very implausible that he forced his hand inside a 53y woman without her consent in a cloth shop during business hours

I disagree. The man's obviously insane and boasted:

I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?

and

I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything

These are obviously taken out of context, but show character and what he think other would like to perceive. He wants people to see him as a murderer and rapist. He thinks they're cool.


by Luciom P

How does he walk from the classified documents case?

That’s not happening until after the election, and he would either pardon himself, argue he can’t be charged until he’s not the President anymore, or just outright fire the special counsel dude and kill the case.

The docs case seems like the strongest one just on the facts.


by Luciom P

What is it then in NYS?

It’s whether that opinion would affect your evaluation of the case / your ability to be fair and impartial.

That’s the same everywhere, maybe worded slightly differently


by GTO2.0 P

It’s whether that opinion would affect your evaluation of the case / your ability to be fair and impartial.

That’s the same everywhere, maybe worded slightly differently

Ah so they believe in the tooth fairy, after basically the whole left voting population demonized trump as possibly the worst human being to ever live, someone who voted democrat is going to be fair and impartial judging him over allegations of rape by a woman.


by GTO2.0 P

That’s not happening until after the election, and he would either pardon himself, argue he can’t be charged until he’s not the President anymore, or just outright fire the special counsel dude and kill the case.

The docs case seems like the strongest one just on the facts.

Why?


by Luciom P

They took Kevin Spacey down, I don't forget.

More than 30 men accused Spacey of sexual harassment and assault, many of them from when they were teenagers and Spacey was an adult. A judge ruled he has to pay Netflix 1 million dollars for breach of contract for his sexual misconduct with crew.


by Crossnerd P

More than 30 men accused Spacey of sexual harassment and assault, many of them from when they were teenagers and Spacey was an adult. A judge ruled he has to pay Netflix 1 million dollars for breach of contract for his sexual misconduct with crew.

The verdict was like more than 30m, but Netflix agreed on 1 because Spacey is going to help them with the insurance company.

Which tells you how much substance there was in those allegations


by GTO2.0 P

I disagree that they have “no reason to be impartial”, if you’re trying to say they’re on the same side anyways so what does it matter.

My understanding is the entire point of appointing non-DA employees is to ensure that the charging decision and prosecution as a whole is impartial. The DA is an elected political figure who could be perceived as having personal interest in the outcome, which is the main reason why a

prosecution is never impartial. the goal of prosecution is to prosecute people for as much as you can get them for and nothing less. this idea that someone a prosecutor hired is an "independent" or "impartial" is a farce. a DA wants people convicted, they would hire the people they think best can convict them.. to my knowledge he's also only one of three that were hired.

regardless of her poor choice, it should have little effect on the merits of the case.


Yes I heard that too.

E Jean Carroll was 52 years old, when it supposedly happened.
Maybe 53 and she lied about her age.

What on earth is a 53 year old women doing in a dressing room for lingerie with a stranger on 5th ave?? You need to explain that.
And get this: her intention was by her own words to
put see-through stockings on Trump becuase that would be best material for her SNL scetch, for which she was a writer for.
And he pinned her against the wall with his shoulder. wtf?
how do you pin someone against the wall with your shoulder?
you dont? nobody does that firstly, and secondly not when theyre raping anyone, bc then they cant use their hands.


and then she said: get this: "rape is sexy"- Jean Carroll


by Luciom P

The verdict was like more than 30m, but Netflix agreed on 1 because Spacey is going to help them with the insurance company.

Which tells you how much substance there was in those allegations

It tells me they stand to gain more than 30m from the insurance company.

But you tried and that’s what counts 😀


by Crossnerd P

It tells me they stand to gain more than 30m from the insurance company.

But you tried and that’s what counts 😀

Yes, that's what they think


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Kevin f spacey!

well hes a baddie, he drugged and raped minor teen actors, right?

wheras trump is at worst a fumbler.

at best he got seduced by a mad lady here with clearly the wrong intentions.


she is so out of line that even andy cooper had to shut her up.

a bit cookoo in the head if you ask me.

"most people think rape is sexy" - E Jean Carrol


At best he lost an election, led about winning it and got some crazy dumb ass lady killed because he didn’t have the mental capacity sbd decency to do what every other presidential election loser has done for 200+ years.


did he really get a lady killed though?
he said protest peacefully and they did.
until they broke the glass to that door but they didnt have to shoot her for that.
why did they shoot her? is the cop still on duty? he would get convicted for manslaughter in europe.
he did not have to shoot her, she was unarmed.


how many people biden got killed?


by washoe P

did he really get a lady killed though?
he said protest peacefully and they did.
until they broke the glass to that door but they didnt have to shoot her for that.
why did they shoot her? is the cop still on duty? he would get convicted for manslaughter in europe.
he did not have to shoot her, she was unarmed.

Yeah he got her killed. Lied about an election. Held a rally where he told a bunch of lies about the VP overturning the election sbd told them to March to the Capitol. Completely foreseeable that those lies could have resulted in somone being **** while comitting a felony.


by ecriture d'adulte P

Yeah he got her killed. Lied about an election. Held a rally where he told a bunch of lies about the VP overturning the election sbd told them to March to the Capitol. Completely foreseeable that those lies could have resulted in somone being **** while comitting a felony.

Pretending that he did not forsee this, he could have asked that it stop but didn't.


by ecriture d'adulte P

Yeah he got her killed. Lied about an election. Held a rally where he told a bunch of lies about the VP overturning the election sbd told them to March to the Capitol. Completely foreseeable that those lies could have resulted in somone being **** while comitting a felony.

If this is the standard, and i don't think it should be, then all death and destruction which followed BLM riots, which were infinitely worse than the vegetarian shaman being escorted inside the capitol by police, are the direct personal responsibility of the current VP and other important democrat politicians.

Or, responsibility is always personal


by Luciom P

If this is the standard, and i don't think it should be, then all death and destruction which followed BLM riots, which were infinitely worse than the vegetarian shaman being escorted inside the capitol by police, are the direct personal responsibility of the current VP and other important democrat politicians.

Or, responsibility is always personal

Police violence and mass incarceration do not exist, but are things made up by Harris?


by GTO2.0 P

That’s not happening until after the election, and he would either pardon himself, argue he can’t be charged until he’s not the President anymore, or just outright fire the special counsel dude and kill the case.

The docs case seems like the strongest one just on the facts.

If a president can pardon himself would mean a president would have full immunity and no law to abide too.
He could kill someone ( hire a hit man or w.e) and pardon himself immediately ?
I doubt it can do it .


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