President Joe Biden

President Joe Biden

Right now, we need VP Biden, we need him to step down and drop out so Bernie sanders can save this country from this global crisis just like FDR.

A thread to debate the efficacy of a Joe Biden Presidency in the midst of a global pandemic and impending Great Recession/Depression.

Where is Joe Biden? Can he beat Trump and is he even trying to? What would a Joe Biden Presidency look like in these times? Where is he and why isn't he leading?

20 March 2020 at 09:14 PM
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Or he was about to go on a rant and decided against it.

Biden looks old and feeble in this clip, squinting at the cameras, but he recovered it.

Mitch straight up had to be rebooted by nearby staffers. Twice.


by lozen P

Biden freezes has Mitch Moment

https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/other/bid...

i am 100% on the biden is senile and gets lost on stage bandwagon but this feels like a bit of a stretch, it's incredibly brief and he reacts to it quite well by quipping that he was momentarily self censoring his real thoughts on the matter

still not a good look, but not even a top 20 biden gaffe imo


He's a freak and a weird dude.

Also quite old.


Biden is still the Dem candidate with the best chances against Trump



These potential matchups just don't seem credible to me. When running against Newsom and Whitmer the Trump support numbers basically stay the same while the democrat numbers go down. This seems to imply that a good number of people would just decide not to vote at all if Biden wasn't an option, when other polls say a large majority of Democratic voters wish that Biden weren't running. The only way these would add up is if those people who wish Biden weren't running only have one preferred alternative and consider other alternatives worse than Biden, and so much worse that they would rather just not vote and let Trump win. I just can't imagine many people doing that, as Democratic voters seem to dislike Trump more than they particularly like Biden (or any other candidate).

I wonder exactly how the questions were worded and what the answer(s) was if someone chose neither potential candidate.


Republicans’ Star Hunter Biden Witness Charged for Lying to the FBI

"Republicans may have just lost one of their biggest witnesses in their quest to impeach Joe Biden. The Justice Department on Thursday announced that it is bringing charges against FBI informant Alexander Smirnov, who claimed to have insider information about alleged bribes paid to President Biden and his son Hunter by a Ukrainian oligarch."

Source: https://newrepublic.com/post/179064/repu...


Wow not vetting the adults taking in migrant children what could go wrong Joe ?

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/travel/news/bi...


by pocket_zeros P


Republicans may have just lost one of their biggest witnesses in their quest to impeach Joe Biden.

Good. Save impeachment proceedings for when they diddle young interns in the Oval, just as God intended.

Discrediting Biden as POTUS is just a matter of sticking a microphone in front of him and pressing record. Wasting everyone's time with legal challenges directed at his drug-addled children is punching down and unnecessary.


by Inso0 P

Good. Save impeachment proceedings for when they diddle young interns in the Oval, just as God intended.

Discrediting Biden as POTUS is just a matter of sticking a microphone in front of him and pressing record. Wasting everyone's time with legal challenges directed at his drug-addled children is punching down and unnecessary.

I think they hope that with subpoenas in the Senate, they can dig up some dirt if Biden is under impeachment close to the elections.

Also, by demeaning the value of impeachment and making a joke out of it, they hope to disintegrate the idea that trump is bad because the house impeached him (which is something some independents could think)


by Inso0 P

Good. Save impeachment proceedings for when they diddle young interns in the Oval, just as God intended.

Discrediting Biden as POTUS is just a matter of sticking a microphone in front of him and pressing record. Wasting everyone's time with legal challenges directed at his drug-addled children is punching down and unnecessary.

punching down is all the right does now though, it's like a founding principle. it's also why their attempts at comedy are always so ****ing awful.


by Luciom P

Biden is still the Dem candidate with the best chances against Trump


Polls re hypothetical matchups are notoriously unreliable. They are basically worthless.


by Rococo P

Polls re hypothetical matchups are notoriously unreliable. They are basically worthless.

Why in the world would anyone think Kamala would do so well?

Other than Biden trying to make her border czar, which was a spectacular failure, I cant recall a single thing she has or hasn't done in the last 3 years. At least the other 2, as governors of prosperous states, can easily find some positive to spin. I cant think of anything for Kamala.


by Luciom P

I think they hope that with subpoenas in the Senate, they can dig up some dirt if Biden is under impeachment close to the elections.

Also, by demeaning the value of impeachment and making a joke out of it, they hope to disintegrate the idea that trump is bad because the house impeached him (which is something some independents could think)

Well, if the Republican Party's goal is to make a joke out of our political establishment, then I would say it is mission accomplished.

I mean, I think the Democratic Party is dangerous because it peddles in such dangerous ideologies as socialism and racial grievance politics. But my God, the Republican Party are just complete buffoons at every level.


If democrats are stuck to have an old representative, I would rather have Mike Bloomberg there now ….


by Luciom P

I think they hope that with subpoenas in the Senate, they can dig up some dirt if Biden is under impeachment close to the elections.

Also, by demeaning the value of impeachment and making a joke out of it, they hope to disintegrate the idea that trump is bad because the house impeached him (which is something some independents could think)

I completely agree that repubs shouldn't try using the dem playbook of trying to subvert the will of the people via a phony impeachment. Suing political opponents for inflating extremely illiquid assets is terrible, but trying to take a candidate off the ballot is so far beyond playing politics that I don't know how anyone can morally vote dem for the next 10 years.

by Dunyain P

Why in the world would anyone think Kamala would do so well?

Other than Biden trying to make her border czar, which was a spectacular failure, I cant recall a single thing she has or hasn't done in the last 3 years. At least the other 2, as governors of prosperous states, can easily find some positive to spin. I cant think of anything for Kamala.

Newsome gets spotted the best weather of any state in the country and somehow over the last 3 years California was voted the worst state to live in according to people voting with there feet (net immigration 2020-2023). Having the best weather and consistently being the worst state in net immigration has to be one of the hardest things to do in American politics.

by Dunyain P

Well, if the Republican Party's goal is to make a joke out of our political establishment, then I would say it is mission accomplished.

I mean, I think the Democratic Party is dangerous because it peddles in such dangerous ideologies as socialism and racial grievance politics. But my God, the Republican Party are just complete buffoons at every level.

How can you say the repubs are buffoons when a woman running for dem senate spot is literally pushing the idea of $50/hr minimum wage to help poor people. That would be like if a president said he was going to force taxpayers to pay off other people's student loans in an attempt reduce the cost of college. Raising the MW to $50/hr guarantees worse outcomes for a massive majority of the poor and middle class in the same way forgiving student loans guarantees higher education costs than we otherwise would.


by bahbahmickey P

I completely agree that repubs shouldn't try using the dem playbook of trying to subvert the will of the people via a phony impeachment. Suing political opponents for inflating extremely illiquid assets is terrible, but trying to take a candidate off the ballot is so far beyond playing politics that I don't know how anyone can morally vote dem for the next 10 years.

You think it's 'immoral' to follow the constitution? If so, I guess you should take it up with the Republicans, who were in charge when that amendment was passed.

Also, do you really think the democrats were the first to try a "phony impeachment"? Republicans started that by going after Clinton for leaving a stain on a dress.


by bahbahmickey P

I completely agree that repubs shouldn't try using the dem playbook of trying to subvert the will of the people via a phony impeachment. Suing political opponents for inflating extremely illiquid assets is terrible, but trying to take a candidate off the ballot is so far beyond playing politics that I don't know how anyone can morally vote dem for the next 10 years.

Newsome gets spotted the best weather of any state in the country and someho

So you are telling us u advocate anyone doing fraud should just run for political office to escape their fraud and the judicial system ?

Man this Bernie maddoff miss his ticket did he …


by chillrob P

Republicans started that by going after Clinton for leaving a stain on a dress.

For lying under oath to the American public about the reasons


by Luciom P

For lying under oath to the American public about the reasons


Does that change his point, in your mind? Does that make it less of a "phony impeachment" as per bahbah's use of the term?


by Luciom P

For lying under oath to the American public about the reasons

Reasons that there was no need to ask him about. And I don't believe he lied about anything to begin with. If someone asked me "did you have sex with Ms. X", and she had given me a BJ but we had not had intercourse, I would have obviously said "No", as would at least 95% of American men (unless they were lying to make it seem like they did have intercourse with her).


by Bobo Fett P

Does that change his point, in your mind? Does that make it less of a "phony impeachment" as per bahbah's use of the term?

I think bahbah was referring to the phony impeachment of Mayorkas (which we all agree isn't based on what the constitution would in theory require, curious which letters of impeachment they will actually write), while my point is that Clinton impeachment attempt instead wasn't phony.


by bahbahmickey P

trying to take a candidate off the ballot is so far beyond playing politics that I don't know how anyone can morally vote dem for the next 10 years.

Were it not Republicans who sued in Colorado to takeTrump off the ballot? I guess this would imply you believe no one could morally support Republicans for the next 10 years. But that's only if you were trying to be consistent and not just troll the libs.


by ganstaman P

Were it not Republicans who sued in Colorado to takeTrump off the ballot? I guess this would imply you believe no one could morally support Republicans for the next 10 years. But that's only if you were trying to be consistent and not just troll the libs.

Hahahaha. Nice.



by ganstaman P

Were it not Republicans who sued in Colorado to takeTrump off the ballot? I guess this would imply you believe no one could morally support Republicans for the next 10 years. But that's only if you were trying to be consistent and not just troll the libs.

The case is called "Trump vs Anderson", Anderson was state house and then state senate majority leader when she was a republican, she left the party in 2021.


by Luciom P

The case is called "Trump vs Anderson", Anderson was state house and then state senate majority leader when she was a republican, she left the party in 2021.

She turned from Republican to Independent because of Trump, so trying to say she isn't really a Republican is sort of odd. Plus, while her name is on the case, she was not suing alone. The others were Republicans and Independents. No Democrats were involved.


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