Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.


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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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I think something completely unique about this war is that Hamas has absolutely no regard for the lives of their own people. None. Is there any historic example of something like this? I cant think of any.

And equally unique is how the Palestinian people just nihilistically accept this complete disregard from their leadership. Does anyone doubt the US people would have overthrown such a malignant, malicious government a long, long time ago? I certainly don't.


rekt

Not that I care. We can't go man-for-towelie


by Dunyain P

I think something completely unique about this war is that Hamas has absolutely no regard for the lives of their own people. None. Is there any historic example of something like this? I cant think of any.

And equally unique is how the Palestinian people just nihilistically accept this complete disregard from their leadership.

Lmao


Some of the things you guys are so stupid sksksksk


by microbet P

That dude straight up called migrants from Africa "garbage people" and you're concerned with who he bothers to talk to.

He did say he likes Nigerians if that helps any.



Leveling all cross-pretensions <3



3rd time that link has been posted lol. Pretty sure it's just more Hamas propaganda.


Oops missed it was posted before.


by Dunyain P

I think something completely unique about this war is that Hamas has absolutely no regard for the lives of their own people. None. Is there any historic example of something like this? I cant think of any.

hitler at the end believed that the total destruction of germany (nazi policy circa april 1945) and its people (per accounts from the fuhrerbunker - this one is really good https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inside-Hitlers-...) was preferable to germany continuing to exist under occupation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero_Decre...

'Hitler was not willing to accept the terms of unconditional surrender, and considered this as repeating the same shame as Versailles. According to some around him, Hitler came to view the German people as having failed him, unworthy of their great mission in history and thus deserving to die alongside his regime'


ok, so unsurprisingly the claims about UNRWA were found to be almost entirely bullshit by the....wait....who? oh right the (pro-Hamas) US Intelligence.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/u-...

https://archive.is/1NEIm


low confidence is better than none!


so...the same thing the pro-Hamas people say. Israel has had an agenda to destroy UNRWA for years.


by Victor P

its not genocide if you dont do it as fast as possible amirite?

It's not genocide if you take care to target Hamas and only kill civilians when Hamas used them as human shields


by Luckbox Inc P

He did say he likes Nigerians if that helps any.

I did say nigerian-americans are very good for American society, while Nigerians in Italy mostly aren't, because it's not about race, it's about which selection effects are in place.

Unskilled, uneducated, incapable of getting a normal visa, don't speak the language of the host country: extremely high probability you are a problem for the hosting society.

Skilled and/or educated, capable of entering legally, speaking host country language: extremely high probability of being a good contributor to the hosting society.

This is a very vanilla take but for some reason radical leftists object to it


but that is not what is happening.

Hamas is not using human shields. for something to be a shield it must afford some protection. humans, not even Israeli humans, will protect a resistance fighter from Israeli bombs. as Schlitz advocates, Israel kills them all anyway.


by Dunyain P

I think something completely unique about this war is that Hamas has absolutely no regard for the lives of their own people. None. Is there any historic example of something like this? I cant think of any.

And equally unique is how the Palestinian people just nihilistically accept this complete disregard from their leadership. Does anyone doubt the US people would have overthrown such a malignant, malicious government a long, long time

Assad Syria comes close for 90% of syrians but it's more understandable as that 90% is not of the same ethnicity/cultural group the leader is from


and incidentally, speaking of human shields, we find out from Israeli media (I guess Hamas infiltrated Hebrew language media I dunno, ask Dun and Lucium) that they intentionally bombed a house that they knew was holding hostages which killed one.

https://www.ha-makom.co.il/post/revital-...


thats a translation so maybe a Hebrew speaker can confirm.

I have been told that we cannot trust this guy as he is probably Hamas


by PointlessWords P

I changed the question for you and you still won’t answer it


Are you trolling me or do you actually not understand how to answer a yes or no question without asking another question

I did answer i said 50k for 5k would absolutely be justified if those were the numbers.


by Victor P

ok, so unsurprisingly the claims about UNRWA were found to be almost entirely bullshit by the....wait....who? oh right the (pro-Hamas) US Intelligence.

sentence one of paragraph one of the article you linked

A new U.S. intelligence assessment found it is likely that some employees of a United Nations agency that distributes aid to Palestinians took part in Hamas’s Oct. 7 assault on Israel.

case closed, goodbye UNRWA


by BOIDS P

sentence one of paragraph one of the article you linked

A new U.S. intelligence assessment found it is likely that some employees of a United Nations agency that distributes aid to Palestinians took part in Hamas’s Oct. 7 assault on Israel.

case closed, goodbye UNRWA

That's not how US intelligence reports work fwiw.


you think sandy hook was an invention involving crisis actors, so excuse me for not listening to anything you have to say about any topic ever


by BOIDS P

you think sandy hook was an invention involving crisis actors, so excuse me for not listening to anything you have to say about any topic ever

he what?


by BOIDS P

you think sandy hook was an invention involving crisis actors, so excuse me for not listening to anything you have to say about any topic ever

You believe that US intelligence reports represent the final word on topics.

They've written books on Sandy Hook fwiw.


Deny rape on October 7
Deny hamas blowing up their own hospital
Deny UNRWA participated on October 7
Deny the word of any "Gentleman or Israeli" (i can't believe thats an actual quote
Believe anything Hamas says
Believe all Israelis are evil
Justify the heinous crimes hamas does commit as resistance to the illegal occupation
have people try to defend your words by saying that's not what you meant
correct those people and clarify that you meant what you said

and i only see the posts that are quoted

can we stop quoting him so much? i don't get the point at all


and now sandy hook?

i guess you guys (and gals) are trying to just get this thread 86ed


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