Israel/Palestine thread
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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
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You want me to post the neverending stream of starved to death babies?
Starvation takes time you know.
Presently, people are starving to death. Presently, Israel is bombing aid trucks. Presently, Israel is shooting at people waiting for aid.
Previously, Israel said this was exactly what the would do.
And since then, Israel has acted accordingly in every way.
People are starving. Everything else you said is false. Just blatant propaganda.
Also people are starving bc Hamas is stealing their aid.
See Mets, that’s why I used the word basically. He said one thing that was correct.
The IDF is presently designing a model where they hand out aid in Gaza to make sure it can get out. Like aid hubs.
And it didn't come from outside. They created the idea internally. There's a big push to make it work.
Pure incompetence (possibly induced by political expediency and/or hatred) that Bibi is starting this now instead of one, if not two, months ago, or even earlier.
Israel just massacred over a 100 starving people about to get aid.
Israel just bombed an aid truck so blatantly that even CNN reported it.
Previously they bragged about killing policemen escorting an aid truck.
But let's not bogged down in individual facts. People are starving he says. Any guesses why they are starving? I would point to comments from the occupying force stating they would starve the population. And the fact that almost all aid trucks are blocked from entering Gaza let alone the North
False, false, false and false.
They are starving bc Hamas is stealing the aid. Bc they don’t give a damn about their own people.
Biden says US military to airdrop food and supplies into Gaza
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-eas...
"It is arguable that the situation in Gaza is now so bad that any additional supplies will at least alleviate some suffering. But this at best a temporary band aid measure," Gowan added.
Another issue, the official added, was that the U.S. could not ensure that the aid simply didn’t end up in Hamas’ hands, given that the United States did not have troops on the ground.
I guess dropping happy meals from all over would be a bit tougher to be solely taken by Hamas than aid trucks.
I'm starting to think the US may be sending in troops once it's accepted that these air drops aren't going to do very much.
Doubt it. The US isn't about to riskitheir soldiers lives to feed Gazans. The airlifting food supplies is welcome news though, hopefully the C-17 can get there stat.
No way biden is sending in troops
Probably not, but the end game is incredibly blurry from an optimistic stand point, atm and there is a big difference between the amount that have died to this point and the amount that are susceptible to dying if Israel doesn't get what it's asking.
Lying Palestinian grandma right??
I don’t understand how the pro IDF side says that it’s terrible for the Palestinians to want to kill all Israelis (I don’t even agree this is true)
But then when pro IDF people say kill all Palestinians, the other pro IDF people don’t say anything about it
Why is that?
I don’t understand how the pro IDF side says that it’s terrible for the Palestinians to want to kill all Israelis (I don’t even agree this is true)
But then when pro IDF people say kill all Palestinians, the other pro IDF people don’t say anything about it
Why is that?
You don’t agree that it is terrible for the Palestinians to want to kill all Israelis?? Interesting.
Are you trolling my troll? Can’t tell.
Lying Palestinian grandma right??
oh we are allowing statements from Palestinians now? bc boy, I dont think that will end up very well for your arguments.
Just to recap:
Me: statement.
Vic: show your source
Me: provide a source that has zero reason to lie and and plenty of reasons to not say what she’s saying.
Vic: lol diversion time.
IDF needs to drop the food themselves, with Israeli flags all over the food, next to refugee camps and make Hamas fight Gazan civilians for the food.
This is like the easiest PR win ever.
At this point, I have to think Bibi is just blinded by actual hatred.
Just to recap:
Me: statement.
Vic: show your source
Me: provide a source that has zero reason to lie and and plenty of reasons to not say what she’s saying.
Vic: lol diversion time.
so bc of what this women says, you are confident that Hamas is the reason that people are starving? like thats your argument?
It’s ok Victor.
She’s obviously part of the Israeli propaganda lying machine.
Maybe she’s a homosexual, and Israel turned her??
And if that's true, then we are still in the early stages of this mess. If it's all just part of the plan to secure the well being of everyone, then we just need to accomplish those concessions and everything will be okay.
