Israel/Palestine thread
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you guys see the Israeli body cam footage of the elderly deaf guy they murdered and then laughed and bragged about?
tell me how they are going after Hamas again.
It looks like the Israelis have again dug a hole for themselves, partly because the scale of destruction looks Putin-ish and partly because they have no idea what comes next, that is, who now rules and administers Gaza. They won't tolerate Hamas, but the resentment generated by the war may haunt them. And the Americans seem to be thinking of temporary port facilities (like the Mulberry Harbours in Normandy in '44) to relieve the imminent fa
They built a road right down the middle. They are planning for occupation. The question is what that occupation will look like.
Full scale war with hezbollah seems inevitable
They built a road right down the middle. They are planning for occupation. The question is what that occupation will look like.
I am not sure there is much planning for the future.
They are trying to eradicate hamas doing everything they can within international constraints, then they will assess
and the scope for economic development becomes considerable, and it may be that Israel has discredited itself too badly to say 'No, we want to keep 'em down.'
Who is going to pay for this development, with Hamas still theoretically in charge holding hostages and firing rockets into Israel? I certainly would not want my government to. Seems just a matter of time Hamas would cross a line and Israel would just retaliate and destroy everything. And that is even assuming Israel allowed the development in the first place. If I was Israel I wouldn't allow any development until the status quo is changed.
Also, because of the intense antisemitic Islamist indoctrination Gaza has undergone the last 20 years by actors such as UNRWA, Hamas, Al Jazeera, etc. the Palestinians seem pretty maxed out on hate. I am not sure anything Israel does further is going to move the needle much. Humans can only contain so much hate and resentment.
If anything, the last 5 months have hopefully showed the Palestinians there will be severe consequences for further attacks on Israel, so hopefully there will be some pragmatic restraint, if nothing else.
Correct
Israel will not let gaza be rebuilt with hamas still in charge
That's a given
And Israel should make it very clear that if they end up in a major engagement with Hezbollah, and the Palestianians try to open a second front from the South or East, the response will be swift, furious and decisive.
swift and decisive you say? as the months drag on and the only thing Israel can do is murder civilians. but maybe that was the whole point.
Hizbollah doesn’t want open war with Israel.
But it needs to virtue signal solidarity with Hamas.
Forcing them to choose is incredibly risky and could draw Hizbollah and Israel into a war neither side is prepared to fight.
Only winner will be… Bibi?
Hizbollah doesn’t want open war with Israel.
But it needs to virtue signal solidarity with Hamas.
Forcing them to choose is incredibly risky and could draw Hizbollah and Israel into a war neither side is prepared to fight.
Only winner will be… Bibi?
Iran decides, if Iran is financing Hezbollah to fight they fight otherwise they don't.
we will know depending on what they do. they are complet puppets of Iran with no agency
300 kidnapped in Nigeria apparently. No doubt, resistance to an occupation or something.
damn, didnt realize KKKKhamas was in Nigeria. up the ra.
baba booey
and then Israeli telegram channels with 100s of thousands of followers celebrated and made fun of him.
this is just one example
its a society that is reveling in the genocide.
Horrible of course, as are all the Muslim societies which revel in genocide, which include many times the population.
This one
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
Where you advocated genocide by providing justification for obliterating Gaza, Gazans and any remaining Gazan survivors.
It is ridiculous to call an opinion about a possible war tactic an advocation of that tactic.
I honestly think if a Muslim terrorist group blew up every skyscraper in the US, that would really get across their point that America is the great satan.
There, I said it, and I absolutely believe it. Do you think that means I'm advocating that every skyscraper in the US should be blown up?
you really just dont get it
its not stupid. or a mistake. or collateral damage. or disinterest in the civilians.
its the policy. its the goal.
I don't remember the US sending shipments of food to Germany during WWII. Does that mean we were using starvation as a weapon against the Nazis?
Eh, never mind, you probably do think that.
anyway, as predicted we are now seeing flour massacres every day. they are using the promise of food to starving people to draw them out and massacre them.
lots of other good stories too
bombing houses and then sniping the survivors
shelling children one by one
kidnapping a 7 year old girl. oh wait, detaining a terror suspect amirite? fwiw, these are the hostages that Hamas is demanding freed.
torturing families and then then bombing them. tons of stories like this since the beginning of the genocide.
More quality sources I see!
believe women
also, believe Israeli soldiers when they brag about murdering elderly deaf men
So they have bombs which could kill a lot more without putting israelis in danger, but their genious master plan instead is to draw people out (as if they were hidden? ) and then murder them at point blank because that's obviously more efficient (??)
Lol you guys aren't even good at making up stuff
