Israel/Palestine thread
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Anyone trying to deliver a death blow to Israel is going to have to be very sneaky about it, if they don't want to get nuked.
Israel had nukes in 1973 and it didn't stop most of the Arab world trying to team up and destroy Israel.
For whatever reason, it doesn't seem to be something Islamists worry about very much. Maybe they just assume that if Israelis had to choose between losing Israel and nuclear war they would just accept Israel's loss. Maybe the Islamists just aren't thinking that far ahead at all. They are just doing what they perceive is Allah's will, and whatever happens is inshallah.
Israel had nukes in 1973 and it didn't stop most of the Arab world trying to team up and destroy Israel.
For whatever reason, it doesn't seem to be something Islamists worry about very much. Maybe they just assume that if Israelis had to choose between losing Israel and nuclear war they would just accept Israel's loss. Maybe the Islamists just aren't thinking that far ahead at all. They are just doing what they perceive is Allah's will,
In the 70s and for quite a while afterward most of the Arab countries and the ones who allied against Israel in particular were not headed by Islamists, but by Arab Nationalists. Sadat in Egypt, al-Bakr in Iraq, Al-Asad in Syria, Boumediene in Algeria, Gaddafi in Libya, Bourguiba in Tunisia. None of these people were islamists and none of these countries were extremely conservative religiously at the time.
We've been through this before, but you don't learn. This was Cairo University in the 1970s.
These places were about as religious/secular as places like France or Italy or Ireland.
Israel had nukes in 1973 and it didn't stop most of the Arab world trying to team up and destroy Israel.
For whatever reason, it doesn't seem to be something Islamists worry about very much. Maybe they just assume that if Israelis had to choose between losing Israel and nuclear war they would just accept Israel's loss. Maybe the Islamists just aren't thinking that far ahead at all. They are just doing what they perceive is Allah's will,
If they had actually gotten closer to succeeding, I'm pretty sure israel would have used their nukes. Why wouldn't they?
Or, in this case, as Jihadi X, the grand mufti, General Admiral Aladeen, Mohamed Atta, et al, would say. They aren't peaceniks.
Honestly, someone explain to me how you negotiate with these people? Leave that region and call it quits?
In the 70s and for quite a while afterward most of the Arab countries and the ones who allied against Israel in particular were not headed by Islamists, but by Arab Nationalists. Sadat in Egypt, al-Bakr in Iraq, Al-Asad in Syria, Boumediene in Algeria, Gaddafi in Libya, Bourguiba in Tunisia. None of these people were islamists and none of these countries were extremely conservative religiously at the time.
We've been through this before, b
I am aware. But Israel still had nukes and they still attempted a full scale invasion to destroy Israel. The nukes didn't seem to act as much of a deterrent. If secular, Arab nationalists aren't worried about Israeli nukes, hard to imagine the Islamists of today would be.
The Islamists of today literally dont care about he lives of the people they control. Most of the time when someone says something along these lines, it is hyperbole, but in this case it isn't. They literally seem to believe if their people live horrible lives and die as martyrs for a God sanctioned Jihad, they will live a great afterlife in heaven, and that is perfectly fine for them.
Could one of these days leave everything behind and call it quit.
There was uncertainty over whether Israel had nukes or not. I think the consensus was they were at "turnkey" but even at "turnkey", they'd still need time to put it together so a total blitz by overwhelming firepower had a decent chance to overwhelm Israeli forces before Israel could assemble.
Radical Islam and nuclear weapons is not a marriage Bibi(and hopefully his successors)will allow, God willing
Pakistan has had nukes for a time. Hopefully the CIA is in operation.
you contradict yourself in that very post when you say likely
anyway, as Malcolm X said, you cant have peace without freedom.
Malcolm X, of course the person we should all want to emulate.
I said "likely" because I don't claim to know for sure what will happen, unlike some here who are very stuck on their own opinions.
In the 70s and for quite a while afterward most of the Arab countries and the ones who allied against Israel in particular were not headed by Islamists, but by Arab Nationalists. Sadat in Egypt, al-Bakr in Iraq, Al-Asad in Syria, Boumediene in Algeria, Gaddafi in Libya, Bourguiba in Tunisia. None of these people were islamists and none of these countries were extremely conservative religiously at the time.
We've been through this before, b
Though at the same time there was always something not good about East Africans (in particular) wearing western suits and ties.
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/arti...
There may be an unofficial ceasefire with hamas during Ramadan, but Hezbollah, not so much :(
In the 70s and for quite a while afterward most of the Arab countries and the ones who allied against Israel in particular were not headed by Islamists, but by Arab Nationalists. Sadat in Egypt, al-Bakr in Iraq, Al-Asad in Syria, Boumediene in Algeria, Gaddafi in Libya, Bourguiba in Tunisia. None of these people were islamists and none of these countries were extremely conservative religiously at the time.
We've been through this before, b
How many people went to college in Egypt in the 70s? How was life for everyone else?
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/arti...
There may be an unofficial ceasefire with hamas during Ramadan, but Hezbollah, not so much :(
You know very well 100 rockets isn’t even a tickle in the context of current situation. Both the Israelis and Hezbollah have repeatedly telegraphed they don’t want full war.
lol, told yall it was all bullshit
why am I always right on this stuff? oh proly just luck or something.
That movement will be
1. Israel guilting Germany and EU into sending it more ammo
2. Israel ramping up bombardment so they could finish the job before running out of ammo
3. Israel ramping up domestic production of weapons
They've been through the dance before.
Push comes to shove, they'll go to the Saudis, Russians, Chinese, and even Iranians themselves, all of whom have a major interest in accessing Israeli tech.
“I’m never going to leave Israel. The defense of Israel is still critical,” Biden said. “So there’s no red line [in which] I’m going to cut off all weapons so they don’t have the Iron Dome to protect them.”
If Israel invades Rafah, Biden will consider conditioning military aid to Israel
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/11...
Bibi is aware that Biden gives aid to Israel for a reason. Bibi understand's Israel's position and why Biden can't abandon the country. By this point Biden has given what threats he can credibly give.
