Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
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Hey Victor, check this out.
There is a disussion in ATF about a replacement for browser. IT is a dumb discussion based on a lie.
I dont know if they are joking or not, or if some are just ignorant to the facts, but i suspect they are not (AT least some) and this is very bad. I suspect this will bring problems and would mean your posting ITT has ended. I suspect crossnerd is very biased from her recent posts in this forum.
So if you want yo
Im fine with cn or browser tbh
Hey Victor, check this out.
There is a disussion in ATF about a replacement for browser. IT is a dumb discussion based on a lie.
I dont know if they are joking or not, or if some are just ignorant to the facts, but i suspect they are not (AT least some) and this is very bad. I suspect this will bring problems and would mean your posting ITT has ended. I suspect crossnerd is very biased from her recent posts in this forum.
So if you want yo
Link?
unless we got posters over there doing war crimes (I know some former posters did), then no I dont blame forum posters on 2p2 for Israel doing genocide.
why you think that about me and Trolly is really strange and probably requires some investigation into your thought processes by yourself or a professional.
I dont think this thread or forum is the place for such delusions.
Bluegrassplayer, you hang out here anyways, why dont you become a politics mod? Besides browser and Co.
You would be a good mod imo.
Better than all these suggestions:
That is certainly a lie. I've made it clear the blame should fall on Netanyahu and Hamas and not on the people of Israel or Palestine as a whole.
On the other hand, you guys *constantly* try to blur the lines between civilians and combatants. Now you're even smearing all Muslims as whole. The self-defense rationale is wearing thin after 31,000 deaths so we need a new way to demonize the people being wiped out.
I wasn't talking about the people of Israel, I was talking about participants of this thread. The accusatory comments that you and Victor make suggest that you place blame on members of this forum. Of course he does it more than you do. If you don't think it applies to you, feel free to ignore my comment; I'm not going to beat this horse any longer.
Bluegrassplayer, you hang out here anyways, why dont you become a politics mod? Besides browser and Co.
You would be a good mod imo.
Better than all these suggestions:
TY but I disagree. I post in 2 threads and then one lc thread. I would not be able to manage the rest of the threads here, and also have no desire to take that job. Being a mod is completely thankless and I mod forums that are far less polarizing than here.
Browser is a great mod.
unless we got posters over there doing war crimes (I know some former posters did), then no I dont blame forum posters on 2p2 for Israel doing genocide.
why you think that about me and Trolly is really strange and probably requires some investigation into your thought processes by yourself or a professional.
I dont think this thread or forum is the place for such delusions.
Ok, if you don't blame us, you sure get awfully worked up about comments people make here which have no role in causing any deaths.
But it's good to know that you don't blame me, particularly as I have never said anything supportive of Israel.
TY but I disagree. I post in 2 threads and then one lc thread. I would not be able to manage the rest of the threads here, and also have no desire to take that job. Being a mod is completely thankless and I mod forums that are far less polarizing than here.
Browser is a great mod.
I understand, just wanted to ask in case.
Agree to browser is a great mod.
Oh wow I didn't see that there's $1500 involved.
That is an offer from a poster who wants browser kicked. The grumpy e_d
Only if browser gets replaced are his conditions.
I find that disgusting that he offers money to pay for his politcal views and that a browser gets attacked by him over nothing.
is this a joke? how many civilians has Ukraine killed since 2014? and since the invasion?
you dont see me advocating for Russia to obliterate the whole country and starve the population like Israel does.
Almost none? and even if it did, it wasn't Russian citizens so what the hell would Russia have to do anything with it to begin with lol
Total civilians killed between 2014 and the full scale invasion was 3100 (not counting Russia downing the commercial flight), and since it was mostly in the Donbas I'm guessing the vast majority were Ukrainian killed by Russia.
I dont mean that to be sexist in any way.
Cant edit it now.
TY but I disagree. I post in 2 threads and then one lc thread. I would not be able to manage the rest of the threads here, and also have no desire to take that job. Being a mod is completely thankless and I mod forums that are far less polarizing than here.
Browser is a great mod.
Lol at the constant stream of posts thanking and praising mods while simultaneously saying it's a thankless job. Completely thankless!
I can also be persuaded to step out of the running for mod… with just one Le Creuset!
this is the wrong thread ofc but its hard to look at all that Ukraine has done in the last few years and argue that it has worked out well for them.
Again, you are naive
They didn't DO ANYTHING. They were ATTACKED. Putin is a PSYCHOPATH
If you dealt with this guy, he would eat you alive. It's actually astounding how you sound right now. And I actually make an effort to lend credence to your views since they seem both genuine and hold an interest to the true nature of humanism
That is the crux here that drives a lot of everything we're talking about. If Ukraine puts down their weapons, there is no Ukraine. If Israel puts down their weapons, there is no Israel. You can't simply ignore that no matter how morally conscious and/or superior you think your positions are
hard to believe that you think a horrific brutal destructive war is better than...no war? well maybe not that hard to believe. liberals love war.
You are insane. The choice isn't "no war" the choice is "no Ukraine"
How do you not understand this, knowing early on in the war we were seeing stories of families saying they'd fight until their last dying breath over their homes. They aren't leaving and they aren't kneeling for Russia. The Holodomor is ingrained in those hearts and minds
That you either can't understand that, or deliberately choose not to, speaks volumes about you
Again, you are naive
They didn't DO ANYTHING. They were ATTACKED. Putin is a PSYCHOPATH
If you dealt with this guy, he would eat you alive. It's actually astounding how you sound right now. And I actually make an effort to lend credence to your views since they seem both genuine and hold an interest to the true nature of humanism
That is the crux here that drives a lot of everything we're talking about. If Ukraine puts down their weapons, ther
They were attacking Russian civilians in eastern Ukraine, Russia intervened, they signed the Minsk agreement which Ukraine then repeatedly violated which then led to Russia's full scale invasion.
Again, you are naive
They didn't DO ANYTHING. They were ATTACKED. Putin is a PSYCHOPATH
If you dealt with this guy, he would eat you alive. It's actually astounding how you sound right now. And I actually make an effort to lend credence to your views since they seem both genuine and hold an interest to the true nature of humanism
That is the crux here that drives a lot of everything we're talking about. If Ukraine puts down their weapons, ther
If Israel puts down their weapons they will pay someone else to protect them
Anyway what does Israel getting annihilated in some dream scenario have to do with the war crimes Israel is doing rite now ?
Again, you are naive
They didn't DO ANYTHING. They were ATTACKED. Putin is a PSYCHOPATH
If you dealt with this guy, he would eat you alive. It's actually astounding how you sound right now. And I actually make an effort to lend credence to your views since they seem both genuine and hold an interest to the true nature of humanism
That is the crux here that drives a lot of everything we're talking about. If Ukraine puts down their weapons, ther
when the Nazis put down their weapons, there ceased to be a Nazi Germany
I am not saying that Israel is acting irrationally. as a racist genocidal regime of theft and oppression they are doing the right thing to manifest their ideology of hate.
however, I dont think Ukraine is really acting rationally. maybe its rational to Zelenskyy and the leaders in terms of personal power.
