Israel/Palestine thread

I am once again begging you to understand that the treatment of North America's indigenous population is not an acceptable moral benchmark for enlightened nations in 2024. It was considered barbaric by the standards of the era.

lol

It was a British territory or whatever

yes so what people called the Palestinians today, they approx grandfathers (2-3 generations ago), had 0 rights to that land.

nada, nich.

before the British, it was ottoman land for 400 years.

there was and is no Palestinian people distinct clearly from generic Arabs in the area with any specific national rights to that area, it's a made up concept

Well they had their god given right to the land. And they had tenancy. The people that were given their land had 0 rights to it

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Which god? Is that irony?

Many Jews bought land there before the British left btw, and worked for decades to establish a state there, so called "Zionist movement", you might have heard of it.

The British left and it was about who took what with force. Arabs thought those Jews were easy targets and tried to drive them all away.

Bad choice! Jews won against the Arabs, and so deservedly took some land.

Their mistake was not getting it done properly at the time removing all Arabs from Jerusalem, and taking more land elsewhere.

In the meanwhile some of the violent aggressors who lost decided to stay, and people now call the "Palestinians".

Tldr is Arabs tried to complete the Nazi genocide, failed, and have been complaining ever since that the people they tried to genocide are still there

Do you think god cares what you call her? She exists without you

And gives stuff to people you like I get it.

Whatever works for you to cope with the difficulties of life, whatever works.

And they gave the Palestinians land

Transjordan

Lol 99.9%. You want to pick an over/under on positive vs negative posts about mods and make a bet? You can back off from your ridiculous 99.9% a bit if you want.

Sure, go ahead and compile the data. Don't forget to include private PMs and other attacks. I'm looking forward to how you decide to weigh them too.

No one's compiling anything until we agree on a number and make a bet big enough that we can give someone a percentage to do the judging.

You said 99.9% negative and I said it was mostly positive so 51%? How about we bet on more than 25% positive?

How are you going to weigh a post saying "He's a great mod" vs, for example, a death threat or wish for financial ruin when factoring the thanklessness of being a mod? Since we're talking about my opinion of how thankless being a mod is we should of course use my weightings. Name whatever amount you wish to bet.

Of course this isn't true. You're such a nationalist that you can't even recognize that individual humans exist. Lot of Arabs who lived in this area who became known as Palestinians owned land under either/both British and Ottoman governments.

Mets, like you know how Jews were in the area before 1948 and they owned land? Does that kind of thing just matter sometimes and not others?

I'm not going to weigh it. We are going to have to come to terms before booking a bet and then try to find someone independent to judge it. Don't you even know how these things work in theory?

You're going to ask someone to independently judge my opinion of a role I'm doing? This is getting more and more ridiculous. Seeking to make this opinion objective is pretty outrageous and I don't believe that this is a serious suggestion. Here I'll fix my comment regarding my opinion of the job and why I would not want to take it: "In my experience the cons far outweigh the pros when it comes to modding as I personally view things like death threats and wishes for financial ruin in a far more negative light than any positive I get from someone saying 'actually BGP is a fair mod' when I am attacked by multiple posters. The fact that P&S leads to polarizing situations more often makes me believe it would be a net negative for me." Does that satisfy your pedantry?

Well, it sounds like you're saying it's not thankless, so maybe you could have just shut the **** up when I said there were thanks instead of stupidly acting like you were the first person ever to say a good thing about a mod.

What are you talking about? I never acted like I was "the first person ever to say a good thing about a mod." I stated my opinion about the role. You're trying to judge that opinion. Get over yourself.

There's exactly one person who can judge my opinions of how I personally feel about a role. If you agree with that person judging the bet, then feel free to bet any amount and compile your data. I'll be honest about my opinions over whatever you compile. (Don't forget to add this conversation to your data.)

Ridiculous.

You just lie a lot bro.

"I never acted like I was "the first person ever to say a good thing about a mod"

How do you interpret your bit about "oh, you got me there. I thanked a mod.....it's just 99.9% thankless"?

Answered already. The personal feeling I get from the attacks I've faced far outweigh any posts saying "he's a good mod" or whatever.

You're doing your typical bit where you remove all nuance from the discussion and dumb it down to "one person said 'he's a good mod' and another said he should kill himself, so it's 50/50 as far as appreciation goes."

I've spent enough time on this ridiculous derail. Next time state your opinion instead of attacking mine.

Ok, fine, but that's not what you said before and not what I was obviously talking about and then you claimed to have never said.

I wanted to be paid only in cookware

If BGP mods anything like he posts it’s terrible