Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by Victor P

hes not convinced bc this act was so beyond the pale that it doesnt register in his head that his team could ever do something like this.

maybe one day he will get to the "are we the baddies?" moment but I wouldnt bet on it.

he is not Israeli team, he is pro ceasefire since months ago.


If you've read any of my posts you would realize I am not part of the "we" in this scenario.

I do not know why you included half of that text in there but for the two relevant parts:

"Clearly marked" does not mean much at 11pm when viewing things from long distances. There a number of mistakes that could cause such a **** up even if they did know these were the cars.

"but seconds later" means there was not much time to cancel the attack once it was initiated.

This was very possibly a mistake. It could be intentional, but I believe that to be far less likely. Either way the important part in my mind is that NGOs will not be providing aid while IDF is acting either this maliciously or incompetently.


yes that was the real reason why they murdered those people. and already WCK and ANERA have pulled out of distributing aid.

remember that in the past few weeks Israel murdered the civil police who distributed the aid. they were "Hamas" bc they were part of the govt.

then Israel coordinated with local tribal leaders to distribute the aid. those and their families were promptly murdered in the next few days.

and next, somehow some PLO guys worked with Israel to distribute aid and well you can proly guess what happened to them.

you see a pattern?


by Victor P

first off, there was has been no evidence shown that anyone from Hamas was part of the convoy.

secondly, the clearly had no visual evidence that Hamas was in any of the 3 cars bc well, no one from Hamas died.

thirdly, I dont care if Sinwar himself was in the car, its still wrong.

Victor does it matter if Israel ever did show evidence? You never believe it anyway.


lol killing three cars full of aid workers to get one Hamas dude would be deranged even if the story is true.


by rafiki P

Victor does it matter if Israel ever did show evidence? You never believe it anyway.

depends on how convincing it was. if its just some brown dude or a guy with a bicycle then no?

but lets say it was guy with a big ole rocket launcher.

well, he wasnt in the car bc you know he wasnt killed. so they never had confirmation that they were even shooting at that big bad guy.

but lets just change history completely, (which should be easy for any Israeli supporter) and say they had confirmation that some grizzled badass Hamas member armed to the teeth with rocket launchers, sniper rifles, ieds, and the blood of Jews covering his body, well then I refer you to this:

by Trolly McTrollson P

lol killing three cars full of aid workers to get one Hamas dude would be deranged even if the story is true.

this is how normal people think.


Yes, I obviously see the pattern I brought up in my original post on this subject even if I don't agree with the description of some of the events.

I would like to read this story from some other sources.


trollson being the idea of what a normal person is explains a lot of victor


as expected, Trump basically retracted and is now in victor camp, on the left of Biden



Do you believe he means that?


thats not my camp lol. I want all of their leaders arrested and tried. and the population reeducated. think East Germany after the war.


de-Zionism camps is the minimum required at this point


I remember when rafki and dun said that quadcopters didnt shoot people

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/a...



by Luckbox Inc P

Do you believe he means that?

Topic was he would react to his base and act accordingly.

He tried to be fully pro Israel for a while (clear financial value in doing that for the campaign), but the base reaction was significant now he flipflops.

I think he believes that if the topic just go away his life would be easier btw. He doesn't give a **** about Palestinians for sure, while he could give some **** about Israel given it's easy for him to see how he could personally gain from that.


Gaza is a weapons lab for the arms industry w/Antony Loewenstein | The Chris Hedges Report




by rafiki P

This unfortunate event with the World Central Kitchen is an interesting case study for the war.

For starters, front page news in Israel:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-promis...

IDF acknowledges strike that killed aid workers as home countries demand explanation

“Despite coordinating movements with the (Israeli army), the convoy was hit as it was leaving the Deir al-Balah warehous

Do you think if Israel did intentionally kill those people that they would own up to it?


by metsandfinsfan P

I think they said the same thing after Suleimani was murdered.

I doubt the want war and will probably not do anything to escalate this. but you know that Israel did start the war right? they attacked their territory with fighter planes and murdered a bunch of innocent people.

how do you think Israel would react if one of their embassies was bombed and they lost generals?


by Victor P

I think they said the same thing after Suleimani was murdered.

I doubt the want war and will probably not do anything to escalate this. but you know that Israel did start the war right? they attacked their territory with fighter planes and murdered a bunch of innocent people.

how do you think Israel would react if one of their embassies was bombed and they lost generals?

Lol pretending that the Houthis aren't Iran


by metsandfinsfan P

Lol pretending that the Houthis aren't Iran

Are Israelis the USA?


by rafiki P

Why don't we see what it was?

You know, the outcome of an investigation by a democratic country that does care about accidentally killing foreign nationals.

Unless, of course, what it's trying to do is warn the foreign nationals not to get involved. Which is entirely likely.


Is anyone even anyone?


by microbet P

Are Israelis the USA?

yes absolutely


by microbet P

Are Israelis the USA?

by Victor P

yes absolutely

I like it when that happens 😀


I always thought Immigration would hurt Biden the most but I am curious if the Israel/Palestine issue hurts him more. Gonna kill him in Michigan

I can imagine the protesters at the DNC


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