Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.


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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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Israel has lied about just about every single thing the start of this. but we are supposed to just take it on faith that they arent lying about deaths? despite all evidence to the contrary including their own media showing they are lying about casualties.

I try to be a humanist. I try to relate to my fellow man. but I dont relate to you people at all. now, dont project your own values on me and just bc I regard you as a different type of person or species, that does not mean I want to murder you and all of your family like the Israelis and their supporters do. I love animals and I dont even squish bugs.


by Victor P

ya except for the third time, I never said the families werent informed.

incidentally, why do liberals lie so much?

Because Victor doesn't even view (((Zionists))) as human beings, and has no interest in how their society functions in reality, he cannot really process how elaborate burial rituals, community involvement in said rituals, and the openness of Israeli society (including a leftist press that is not going to cooperate with the Israeli war propaganda machine) makes hiding top deaths pretty much impossible.

I think you are all just going to have to accept he has his truth and that is that.


by Victor P

Israel has lied about just about every single thing the start of this. but we are supposed to just take it on faith that they arent lying about deaths? despite all evidence to the contrary including their own media showing they are lying about casualties.

I try to be a humanist. I try to relate to my fellow man. but I dont relate to you people at all. now, dont project your own values on me and just

Micro, that's your friend?

Wow. Just....wow.


I mean, whatever I think of you guys, I dont think you should be murdered en masse. even if you support mass murder and slavery of others people.

it is funny for you to cite burial rituals and other bullshit. the same thing you hid behind with the mass rape hoax.


by rafiki P

Micro, that's your friend?

Wow. Just....wow.

with all honesty there is no way that I can relate to anyone that supports and cheerleads this genocide. genocide is really a watered down term at this point. the torture that is being gleefully inflicted on a captive population as you cheerlead is more than my brain can take.

but I read a few pages of Nietzsche and from what I could comprehend its a bunch of words to justify the ubermenschen doing whatever they want.

congrats that you are now an ubermenschen. Ill gladly be something else.


by Victor P

with all honest there is no way that I can relate to anyone that supports and cheerleads this genocide. genocide is really a watered down term at this point. the torture that is being gleefully inflicted on a captive population as you cheerlead is more than my brain can take.

but I read a few pages of Nietzsche and from I could comprehend its a bunch of words to justify the ubermenschen doing whatever they want.

And the survivor family as Nazi trope to boot. Vic what's your encore tonight?

We're Nazis, we're another species. Anything about killing Jesus, the plague, being rats, anything else good?


lol nah


If you're going to go full tankie, perhaps look for a forum where you can mingle with tankies.


Genocide vic lying again.


by rafiki P

And the survivor family as Nazi trope to boot. Vic what's your encore tonight?

We're Nazis, we're another species. Anything about killing Jesus, the plague, being rats, anything else good?

you disrespect all of your murdered family by using their murder to justify another holocaust. if you cant see that, then no we arent the same.

that doesnt make me better than you. in fact if you ask Lucium or any of the rest of psychopaths, it makes you better than me. you have transcended facts and consistency. I am still beholden to those things.


by Bluegrassplayer P

If you're going to go full tankie, perhaps look for a forum where you can mingle with tankies.

still waiting for you to condemn the terrorism in the West Bank. almost 500 people have been killed. but we know that they arent real people to you.


The genocidal Jew hater is now talking **** about people who died in the Holocaust. Which was, ya know, an actual genocide.

The irony is another Holocaust is exactly what he dreams about.


no Im talking **** about their genocidal grandkids who are using their memories to murder children by the 100s on a daily basis.

learn to read.

and stop lying. Im the one against genocide. whether it is on the Jews or by the Israelis.


You telling someone else to stop lying is beyond delicious.

Just embrace your true self. We all see it, it’s clear as day, just stop pretending.


you so desperately want me to say something antisemitic so that you can handwave away all of the truth I have spoken.

you dont need to support genocide. alternatively, you can just support genocide and just embrace your Nazi side like so many others in this thread.


You’ve said plenty of anti semitic things. You clearly hate Jews. Everyone here sees you for what you are.

Not the least of which is comparing the Holocaust (in which 65% of the Jewish population in Europe was murdered) to
this war, in which 1%-ish of the Palestinians have died, mostly due to Hamas not giving two ****s about them.

But keep running your yap with your lies.


so we gotta wait until 65% of the Palestinians are killed before you give a ****?

bc I guarantee that I would try to stop the Jews being murdered when it got to 1% in Europe.

like the whole point is to not let it get to that stage. well for me. I kinda think you will be happy if it gets there.


like, on the way to 65% in Europe do you think they just skipped over 1-64%?


Holocaust inversion is famously antisemitic. It's part of the broad definition in most places now. In your average workplace you'd be instantly fired for it.

I'm not sweating it if Vic doesn't "get it".

We get it.


by Victor P

so we gotta wait until 65% of the Palestinians are killed before you give a ****?

bc I guarantee that I would try to stop the Jews being murdered when it got to 1% in Europe.

like the whole point is to not let it get to that stage. well for me. I kinda think you will be happy if it gets there.

I can guarantee that you wouldn’t. I’m fairly sure you’d be rooting it on, or denying it’s happening…


by Victor P

like, on the way to 65% in Europe do you think they just skipped over 1-64%?

Nope. They had people like you justifying it. Bc you’re a genocidal Jew-hater.


by rafiki P

Holocaust inversion is famously antisemitic. It's part of the broad definition in most places now. In your average workplace you'd be instantly fired for it.

I'm not sweating it if Vic doesn't "get it".

We get it.

https://www.nplusonemag.com/online-only/...

I take my cues from a lot of Jews actually. but you probably would not consider Masha Gessen a real Jew even though her family died in the holocaust.


by gs3737 P

Nope. They had people like you justifying it. Bc you’re a genocidal Jew-hater.

criticizing the murder and maiming of Palestinians and the complete destruction of all 90% of buildings is antisemitism to these people. you cant take them seriously.


As Rafiki said, Holocaust inversion is anti-semetic. Which is why you used it, bc you hate Jews.


by rafiki P

Holocaust inversion is famously antisemitic. It's part of the broad definition in most places now. In your average workplace you'd be instantly fired for it.

I'm not sweating it if Vic doesn't "get it".

We get it.


looks like Masha missed "holocaust inversion"

heres the thing, someone way smarter than both of us knows your game and is calling you out. and they (pronouns) are a Jew who lost most of their family in the holocaust.

these are the people I follow. not the reactionaries that revel in the murder of children. the smart and articulate and empathetic people who are brave enough to eschew German awards to speak the truth.


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