Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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Excellent point dustbox!


by metsandfinsfan P

1 person got hurt 0 died
Victor claims iranian victory

I didnt claim Iranian victory. I just said the Israelis lied.

but your response is enlightening ofc. you think it is a loss bc you measure things in children murdered, hospitals destroyed, schools destroyed, etc.

oh and ironically, the only reason she was injured was bc she was not a Jews and thus not allowed a bomb shelter. apartheid gunna apartheid.


I don't think there's any victory

I don't even think Iran was trying to kill anyone in that instance

Not sure why i care about the number but also not sure how of 16% of 300 drones and missles were not
Stopped, that means that according to you about 48 hit Israel? And only 1 person got hurt?

Yeah that seems plausible


by metsandfinsfan P

I don't think there's any victory

I don't even think Iran was trying to kill anyone in that instance

Not sure why i care about the number but also not sure how of 16% of 300 drones and missles were not
Stopped, that means that according to you about 48 hit Israel? And only 1 person got hurt?

Yeah that seems plausible

Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not but it does seem plausible.


The article is sophistry.

Recognition of Israel is the foundation of the Oslo accords. Why do you think Israel allowed the PA to be created? The PLO recognized Israel and adopted the two state plan instead of the destruction of Israel. This is basic.

Wiki on Oslo 1993:

the two groups signed Letters of Mutual Recognition—the Israeli government recognized the PLO as the legitimate representative of the Palestinian people, while the PLO recognized the right of the state of Israel to exist and renounced terrorism as well as other violence, and its desire for the destruction of the Israeli state.

The PLO recognized Israel without Israel recognizing Palestine, an immense concession which has proved to be foolhardy.


by metsandfinsfan P

I don't think there's any victory

I don't even think Iran was trying to kill anyone in that instance

Not sure why i care about the number but also not sure how of 16% of 300 drones and missles were not
Stopped, that means that according to you about 48 hit Israel? And only 1 person got hurt?

Yeah that seems plausible

I know this is really hard for you guys to understand, but they werent trying to kill civilians. they aimed at military infrastructure.


by Victor P

I know this is really hard for you guys to understand, but they werent trying to kill civilians. they aimed at military infrastructure.

That may well be the case, but how could we know since none of them hit?


by campfirewest P

That may well be the case, but how could we know since none of them hit?

I guess 16% hit according to that Israeli centrist site but who knows.


by Victor P

I guess 16% hit according to that Israeli centrist site but who knows.

Actually, they were targeting an airbase: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-israel...

Four missiles did hit Israel's Nevatim Air Base, where Israeli F-35s are based, the U.S. officials said, adding that the base was likely Iran's primary target, as it is believed to have been an Israeli F-35 that carried out a deadly strike on an Iranian consulate in Syria's capital on April 1.


I mean, thats what I said. they aimed at military infrastructure.

mets and the Zionists are completely befuddled that they didnt try to take out a hospital and a school bc thats what Israel does. like, thats how they keep score. their depravity is so transparent.


Israel doesn't have its bases in hospitals so no they weren't aiming at hospitals


Also what do you mean Israel doesn't allow muslims in bomb shelters that's the dumbest thing ive ever heard

Israel requires all homes, jewish, Muslim, Chinese, to be built with bomb shelters

They don't control area A or b so not there because well i guess the pa doesn't require it

But you're statement was .. i don't even want to say racist. It was just stupid


by campfirewest P

Actually, they were targeting an airbase: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-israel...

And what did the other 44 that victor thinks got through hit


by metsandfinsfan P

And what did the other 44 that victor thinks got through hit

I have to imagine that there are plenty of empty fields, bushes, and trees for missiles to peacefully fall on.


by Bill Haywood P

The article is sophistry.

Recognition of Israel is the foundation of the Oslo accords. Why do you think Israel allowed the PA to be created? The PLO recognized Israel and adopted the two state plan instead of the destruction of Israel. This is basic.

Wiki on Oslo 1993:


The PLO recognized Israel without Israel recognizing Palestine, an immense concession which has proved to be foolhardy.

Israel was not recognizing Palestine as a state yet because .. they weren't yet. I'm not saying Israel acted perfectly after that but neither did the plo

The rabin murder and then arafat being afraid he would get murdered ruined it though


The 2000 oslo.accords failimg brought in the 2nd intafada and we haven't been close since

But Palestine will not become a state without both sides agreeing on permanent borders


It's understood that Pallywood sells Jihadistanication.


Sounds like Russia vs Ukraine


by Luckbox Inc P

I have to imagine that there are plenty of empty fields, bushes, and trees for missiles to peacefully fall on.

A lot of them fell in Iran and Jordan too. As far as how peacefully they fell, I heard reports of Jordanian casualties. I am guessing if there was any Iranian casualties from their own missiles misfiring we aren't going to hear about it.


by metsandfinsfan P

Also what do you mean Israel doesn't allow muslims in bomb shelters that's the dumbest thing ive ever heard

Israel requires all homes, jewish, Muslim, Chinese, to be built with bomb shelters

They don't control area A or b so not there because well i guess the pa doesn't require it

But you're statement was .. i don't even want to say racist. It was just stupid



https://uk.news.yahoo.com/anger-among-is...


the whole article is amazing. guy works at a solar factory but Israel wont provide them electricity. also, he got a destruction order a few weeks ago.


sounds like Israel is bombing errrbody.


by metsandfinsfan P

Israel doesn't have its bases in hospitals so no they weren't aiming at hospitals

IDF central command is next to a civilian hospital. Wanna guess how many IDF personnel there you'll find on any given day?

The "human shields!" nonsense became a cruel joke after the dozenth or so hospital got blown up; if I were a Hamas commander I'd station my troops as far away from any maternity wards or refugee camps as possible.


Explosions allegedly reported in central Iran right now. Could obviously be nothing, but could also be something too.


right but those are real people in that hospital. not like the human animals buried alive by bulldozers from Al Shifa.


AlShifastan


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