Israel/Palestine thread
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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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Everyone hates Jews. I've been saying this for years here and no one would believe me. Ok, not everyone, but anyone who hates other groups and isn't Jewish hates Jews. Every hater who is anti-Black or anti-Hispanic or anti-Muslim also hates Jews. If they have some reason to align with Israel in the moment and it helps them argue to call other people antisemites, they'll do that, but don't trust their sincerity. Racists are racist period and if they pick some flavor of minority they pretend to like, that's a tactic to try to show they aren't racist.
oh look the UN have released a report stating the the UN did nothing wrong, this is the second time in the last couple of months that the UN have released such a report
well, not thats not exactly what the report said. it said that Israel gave no evidence of the brazen claims that they made.
now, I do understand that demanding evidence from Israel is antisemitic.
@bill
of course. feel free to google the pictures of unrwa members participating in the rape and murder of oct 7, not hard to find
be aware that the sources may be far too jewy for your taste
also BOIDs, you may want to look up the definition of "independent"
you're the guy who demands that a neutral third-party gains access to explore up the vaginas of oct 7 rape victims in order to determine in a very neutral way whether they were indeed raped. as such, your demands for evidence are unreasonable
multiple UNRWA guys pictured taking part on oct 7 (aka the rehearsal for the main event according to your good pals at hamas HQ) is enough for me thanks
It's always been my belief that this adage is true:
Jews are too white for the left, and not white enough for the right
I don't know where the dagger can come from in 50 years, I don't think anyone can see that far. But a place like Israel is going to be awfully tempting to diaspora Jews if the cards fall a certain way. Definitely Europe being the most obvious spot for this outcome. As is it's record flight from France, for example.
Nowhere in the diaspora in the last 70 years or so -- not France, not England, not the US, not anywhere -- has seen anything like Oct 7. The fond notion of Israel, pretty much the most contested spot on Earth, being some kind of secure 'lifeboat' for Jews is pure fancy. The country's whole occupation policy since 1967, and its aggressive refusal to recognise lawful borders, has put its own security in permanent question.
It's interesting, we have a LOT of conservative Muslim voters. They vote along those lines because of things like lgbtq2s+
I think Muslim conservatives are going to be shocked at how much they miss the Democrats and Liberals.
Nowhere in the diaspora in the last 70 years or so -- not France, not England, not the US, not anywhere -- has seen anything like Oct 7. The fond notion of Israel, pretty much the most contested spot on Earth, being some kind of secure 'lifeboat' for Jews is pure fancy. The country's whole occupation policy since 1967, and its aggressive refusal to recognise lawful borders, has put its own security in permanent question.
And yet it's a mass exodus right now from places like France.
Oct 7th was a total security failure. But you greatly misunderstand the benefit as a Jew, particularly an observant one, to live among your own. It's something your analogy just can't make sense of. Being near an army of Jews is also extremely empowering.
you're the guy who demands that a neutral third-party gains access to explore up the vaginas of oct 7 rape victims in order to determine in a very neutral way whether they were indeed raped. as such, your demands for evidence are unreasonable
multiple UNRWA guys pictured taking part on oct 7 (aka the rehearsal for the main event according to your good pals at hamas HQ) is enough for me thanks
maybe Israel forgot to send the pictures to the independent investigator. maybe shoot them an email and let them know that BOIDs can take care of it. better hurry bc UNRWA funding is about to go up and and more people wont starve. we know you dont want that.
lol @ someone who posts random unverified **** on twitter demanding an “independent” investigation that meets his standards.
everything I post from twitter is verified.
I am not demanding any sort of investigation. we already know the rape stuff was a hoax. just as the UNRWA stuff was a hoax.
but they served their genocidal purposes.
I rarely open your posts, bc they’re insane bs.
The one I did was nothing like the headline. They claimed something and the video shows absolutely nothing.
You, of course, hand-waved that away with more of your vile nonsense.
I hadn't heard this so looked it up. There has been a marked increase in Jewish people emigrating from France to Israel, and anecdotal (though unverified because numbers are hard to obtain) evidence from London's Jewish communities of French Jews arriving in greater numbers.
Maybe we should talk less about anti-Semitism in London and more about it in France.
Meanwhile, this genocidal c*** has got what he wanted
I hadn't heard this so looked it up. There has been a marked increase in Jewish people emigrating from France to Israel, and anecdotal (though unverified because numbers are hard to obtain) evidence from London's Jewish communities of French Jews arriving in greater numbers.
Maybe we should talk less about anti-Semitism in London and more about it in France.
To me the interesting thing isn't that it's France. It's WHY it's France.
im sure most people dont actually click any of the links provided itt so i'd like to underline that this latest independent report exonerating the UN was in fact commissioned by the UN
gs37 i would like to please commission you to independently investigate the claims made itt by some posters, that victor is an antisemite. please present your findings at your leisure
Ah the UN. This is BEFORE Oct 7th
https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-condemn...
UN condemned Israel more than all other countries combined in 2022
UN reminds me a bit of this thread tbh. The math doesn't math on complaint volume, UNLESS....
yes that is how independent commissions work
Ah the UN. This is BEFORE Oct 7th
https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-condemn...
UN condemned Israel more than all other countries combined in 2022
UN reminds me a bit of this thread tbh. The math doesn't math on complaint volume, UNLESS....
unless Israel is a rogue genocidal apartheid state.
im sure most people dont actually click any of the links provided itt so i'd like to underline that this latest independent report exonerating the UN was in fact commissioned by the UN
gs37 i would like to please commission you to independently investigate the claims made itt by some posters, that victor is an antisemite. please present your findings at your leisure
Sure things, they’ll be out shortly.
just like how Israel doesnt care about international law and human rights, I dont care about you guys
