Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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there arent 40 civilian hostages alive bc Israel killed the rest


by Victor P

there arent 40 civilian hostages alive bc Israel killed the rest

When wrong, double down/lie or change the topic.

Classic Victor


by Luciom P

might be true in the WB tbh

Well i don't say stealing but yes they must definitely think that Judea and Samaria should be part of Israel.


by Victor P

well thats pretty much the deal that the Resistance has offered

Hamas keeps rejecting ceasefires time and time again
They either refuse to release hostages or don't have any

I haven't heard the word hostage once at any of these campus protests. Did i miss it?


by gs3737 P

When wrong, double down/lie or change the topic.

Classic Victor

explain what I am wrong about?


by Rococo P

All good. I just told want to listen to people complain that they are being subjected to a double standard.

Logically there'd need to be a standard for there to be any double standards.


They have at least 40 hostages. They just refuse to release any men under 60 or any women and children that they have abused


by gs3737 P

When wrong, double down/lie or change the topic.

Classic Victor

Victor (and maybe hamas) believe any men they have aged 18-60 are not civilian hostages. So that's how he says his bullshit without thinking is a lie


I'm assuming Victor also thinks most israeli women under 50 are pows too

Am i wrong?


Remember the Victor rules

All the Palestinian prisoners are hostages
All the Israeli hostages are not civilians
All of the gazan casualties are civilian because they don't have an army
All of the Israeli casualties are military because they are [strike]Jewish[/strike]military, former military, related to someone military, or have no foreskin


My post got eaten


I'll retype it idk what happened

Victor is this true?

All the Palestinian prisoners being held by Israel are hostages
Almost all of the hostages held by hamas are pows because they served in military at some point
All of the gazans dead are civilians because there is no hamas army
All of the israeli dead are military because all Israelis besides those who have an exemption are military
Any hostages left are military or Israel killed them
Hamas did not kill or rape any hostages
October 7th was justified because the oppressed can respond in any means they want to overthrow the oppressors

All good?


Oh i forgot the best one

There is no antisemitism at college campuses because some jews had a passover seder


by Victor P

well thats pretty much the deal that the Resistance has offered

Can you show me this offer from 2024?


by gs3737 P

This has nothing to do with the content of the signs.

He said those signs were being held. You, quick to always assign blame to the other side, instantly said those signs were being held by Zionists. Which is clearly false.

You actually gonna admit you were wrong?

Still waiting on this one Vic.
You conveniently passed over it.


by Victor P

explain what I am wrong about?

You’re just saying **** with zero proof.

Standard, I know.


by gs3737 P

Still waiting on this one Vic.
You conveniently passed over it.

He's never admitted he was wrong silly goose


by metsandfinsfan P

I'll retype it idk what happened

Victor is this true?

All the Palestinian prisoners being held by Israel are hostages
Almost all of the hostages held by hamas are pows because they served in military at some point
All of the gazans dead are civilians because there is no hamas army
All of the israeli dead are military because all Israelis besides those who have an exemption are military
Any hostages left are military or Israel killed them
Hamas di

no not really


by metsandfinsfan P

He's never admitted he was wrong silly goose

Obviously. Bc he always has some bs way to justify it.

Here he is, objectively, 100% wrong. No room for any other interpretation.

I’m giving him a chance to grow.


by gs3737 P

Still waiting on this one Vic.
You conveniently passed over it.

I think you should read the post quoted by that post

by gs3737 P

You’re just saying **** with zero proof.

Standard, I know.

so no specifics?

really curious what I made up here


by Victor P

I think you should read the post quoted by that post

so no specifics?

really curious what I made up here

So you make a luscious statement, and we need to specify why it’s total bs.

Nope. We don’t need to prove a negative here. You run your mouth with absurd accusations, be prepared to back it up.

Oh, and try a real source for a change.


you havent even specified the statement you feel is wrong


oh wait, you think Israel didnt kill the hostages?

lol you are beyond help


by Victor P

I think you should read the post quoted by that post

I did. You falsely accused zionists of something, and then when called out on it, discussed the validity of the signs.

Again, feel free to apologize for lying.


by Victor P

you havent even specified the statement you feel is wrong

Hamas can’t locate 40 hostages for a deal. You say it’s because Israel killed them all.

Show me proof that Israel killed (# of total hostages - 39).


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