Israel/Palestine thread
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Where did I learn about female Muslim terrorists? It's been a thing since before Jamila Al-Shanti (I won't say RIP).
Jamila Al-Shanti did found the women's wing of Hamas. But that's maybe the "official" one. Even back in 2005 there was one in the Izz Al-Din Al-Qassam Brigades. If you want to see how old a concept this is, read this interview:
https://www.memri.org/reports/commander-...
Then a whole BUNCH of the suicide bombers were women. They're named by name in here if you somehow care:
https://www.inss.org.il/he/wp-content/up...
But Jamila made it into the actual political inner circle, which is WAY up there. And there are super high profile Robinhood level female fighters in there. Israa Jaabis for example. She's famous now.
Rafiki,
We should be "happy" that instead of 35 000 dead + entire cities razed to rubble, its only 25 000? dead + entire cities razed to rubble.
Kind of like telling someone they should be happy you only cut off half their arm, not the entire arm.
In Islam women dont fight in wars.
Often arent even allowed to leave the house. So gender is very much real in Gaza.
The Hamas is ISIS thing is nonsense. You can tell because the literacy rate in Gaza is like 97% and over 99% for young adults. And there are women's brigades fighting in Northern Syria.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamila_Abd...
Al-Shanti was a member of Hamas and was the founder of the group's women's organization.[5] She was the most senior woman among Hamas deputies elected in 2006 since she was third on its list and became minister in 2011.[5][4] She worked as a faculty member at the Islamic University in Gaza.[4]
Rafiki,
We should be "happy" that instead of 35 000 dead + entire cities razed to rubble, its only 25 000? dead + entire cities razed to rubble.
Kind of like telling someone they should be happy you only cut off half their arm, not the entire arm.
It's still 35k dead. Just less women and children, and more terrorists (we believe).
Like if you killed 500k Germans in 1944, you'd want to know how many were SS and how many were not. That sort of thing.
Dead children has been a particularly volatile point in this thread. Today we are simply thankful that there are less of them than once thought.
No time to do a celebration dance though, try as hard as you might.
It's a disgusting and unnecessary loss of life.
20 years ago we argued the same things against neo cons pushing the Iraq war and doing everything in their power to rationalize it. People are just blinded when they want revenge.
Netanyahu will destroy all of Gaza. That's as clear as day at this point. Unfortunate.
It's still 35k dead. Just less women and children, and more terrorists (we believe).
Like if you killed 500k Germans in 1944, you'd want to know how many were SS and how many were not. That sort of thing.
Dead children has been a particularly volatile point in this thread. Today we are simply thankful that there are less of them than once thought.
trolololo
No time to do a celebration dance though, try as hard as you might.
It's a disgusting and unnecessary loss of life.
I believe you aren't supposed to suggest that I would dance or celebrate to any of this, according to the new moderation.
I am grateful for less dead women and children though. Muted but visible gratitude.
It's still 35k dead. Just less women and children, and more terrorists (we believe).
Like if you killed 500k Germans in 1944, you'd want to know how many were SS and how many were not. That sort of thing.
Dead children has been a particularly volatile point in this thread. Today we are simply thankful that there are less of them than once thought.
There's a hell of a lot less terrorists than you think. Just like there were a hell of a lot less Nazis in 1945. Not every German with a gun fighting the allies was a Nazi.
Not every Gazan with a gun in his hand May 13 2024 is a Hamas terrorist.
There's a hell of a lot less terrorists than you think. Just like there were a hell of a lot less Nazis in 1945. Not every German with a gun fighting the allies was a Nazi.
Not every Gazan with a gun in his hand May 13 2024 is a Hamas terrorist.
I really do not think there are more than 20k of them left in the 2.2M (and maybe only 12k). So we agree, not many. We are saying the same thing.
not every women is a hamas either.
you just unplugged their babies from incubators. (not you, they)
half of the population has amputated limbs bc you bombed them or shot them with high calibre weapons, half of every citizan of gaza is one legged. Everyone, 100% has blown up family members...plus people dyinf of non existing medial support.
that probably pissed off some women... you made gaza a concentration camp. for a jewish population that is ridiculous.
regardless of how many are left, their combat effectiveness has not degraded at all since the start of the war. in fact it has gotten deadlier.
Nobody disagrees with that either.
That's a well armed well trained terrorist group that is trained and organized just like a little army. There is very little quit in them. The guys on the other side of this respect their abilities.
I believe you aren't supposed to suggest that I would dance or celebrate to any of this, according to the new moderation.
Just one of your celebratory posts
half of the poputaion has amputated limps bc you bombed them,
when the Palestinians decided to do a non-violent protest and a march for return, the Israelis shot them in the legs with snipers.
Well I'M not celebrating. I suggested that perhaps you might since that's the side you back (and of course this is your decision). Trading the lives of children for the lives of terrorists is definitely a blessing I hope we agree on.
I must just observe quiet and muted gratitude on my side. More appropriate. Nobody wants to see a happy Israel backer today. We're like a quiet bunch even at the best of times. Some of them go full Schlitz. It does happen.
It's a little early to reach this conclusion don't you think? And it was like 5 minutes in that mets was completely out of line. And I don't share the sentiment that it's wonderful to remain civil when people make the argument that hunger is actually good for the children of Gaza.
I haven't been out of like bin quoted what Victor said. Victor's post you deleted for being unacceptable. I was told i shouldn't have editorilized on it. Your concluding is in was out of line?
Amazing
Well I'M not celebrating. I suggested that perhaps you might since that's the side you back. Trading the lives of children for the lives of terrorists is definitely a blessing.
I must just observe quiet and muted gratitude on my side. More appropriate.
Oh sure. So when you describe it as "a GOOD thing" that's not happiness or thoughts of celebration on your part, despite saying that others should celebrate it?
I'm not allowed to call you what I'd like to, so I'll just say I find your posts extremely contradictory.
Oh sure. So when you describe it as "a GOOD thing" that's not happiness or thoughts of celebration on your part, despite saying that others should celebrate it?
I'm not allowed to call you what I'd like to, so I'll just say I find your posts extremely contradictory.
It is a good thing that less women and children in Gaza have died. I am happy that less women and children have died than we thought. This is news the world benefits from as a whole.
when the Palestinians decided to do a non-violent protest and a march for return, the Israelis shot them in the legs with snipers.
they do headshots now.
a doctor from germany who was helping with a team from germany in a gazan hospital reports
they had nothing as medical supplies. many limbs could have been saved, but they didnt have the right tools and meds, so they just had to amputate.
that is horrific. that is all on isreal.
Washoe are there women in Hamas? Where did we finish off there? I value your opinion (once you base it on something).
With destruction of 2/3 housing stock, all the schools, all the universities, all the civic buildings, all the hospitals, we don't need exact numbers to know it's a willful massacre of civilians by the most moral army in the world.
The battalions are hiding in the schools, universities, civic buildings, and housing. It is not a willful massacre of civilians
