Israel/Palestine thread
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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
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I once again am begging you to understand that the atrocities committed by other nations do not justify the ethnic cleansing of Gaza.
We are discussing the fact that territories of the former British Empire were split between two religious groups into their respective parts/countries, and the world carried on (Pakistane, India).
That is what we are talking about.
If we had carried on here, we never get to an Oct 7th. So we never get what follows. Do you see what I mean? This could have gone differently if we'd moved on like every other instance of relocating people post-colonial splits, went.
This one is the anomaly because 3 generations later, people won't move on.
The 125k Jews in Israel aren't trying to get their houses back in Iraq. It's over. Today is today. Nobody is chanting to get their house back in Baghdad.
hey victor, want some land?
its free! all you have to do is convert to Judaism
and claim the torah has promised you a piece of land in Gaza.
/S
Fact: Jordan should have been to Palestinians, what Pakistan became to Muslims (from India).
That's any Palestinians who didn't want to just stay and live in Israel (like the other Israeli Arabs do).
That's the bizarro alternate timeline where all of this thread isn't a thing. History went another way.
hey victor, want some land?
its free! all you have to do is convert to Judaism
and claim the torah has promised you a piece of land in Gaza.
Then you get a piece of land in Palestine! I mean Isreal.
Over 2M Arabs live peacefully in Israel (proper) today. Nobody asked them to convert. And the declaration of independence didn't ask them to either.
We know this works, because the Christian, Druze, Ba'hai etc also live peacefully in Israel. And were not asked to convert.
Over 2M Arabs live peacefully in Israel (proper) today. Nobody asked them to convert. And the declaration of independence didn't ask them to either.
We know this works, because the Christian, Druze, Ba'hai etc also live peacefully in Israel. And were not asked to convert.
and over 5m live in a brutal oppression inside Israel
We are discussing the fact that territories of the former British Empire were split between two religious groups into their respective parts/countries, and the world carried on (Pakistane, India).
lol "and the world carried on," a million ****ing people died and >10 million became refugees.
There are 400 mosques in Israel proper
400
Fact: Jordan should have been to Palestinians, what Pakistan became to Muslims (from India).
That's any Palestinians who didn't want to just stay and live in Israel (like the other Israeli Arabs do).
That's the bizarro alternate timeline where all of this thread isn't a thing. History went another way.
That is what Jordan is
There was a conflict over the land of the British Mandate of Palestine. Britain gave 73% of the land to create TransJordan for the Palestinian people. That was before the partition plan for the rest and the Arab world still rejected it
I once again am begging you to understand that the atrocities committed by other nations do not justify the ethnic cleansing of Gaza.
It may not justify it but since the Un and people like you only seem to villify Israel, it shows ignorance or antisemitism. Or both
Which is it trolly?
Mcdonalds is now hamas
or anti idk
It may not justify it but since the Un and people like you only seem to villify Israel, it shows ignorance or antisemitism. Or both
Which is it trolly?
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You can't steal a country from the UN. You have to apply via a rigorous process. The world has to vote and accept it. Then for good measure, you may have to win a defensive war (which has further benefits to the victor).
Again, just like Pakistan and India.
But even moreso, you can't steal what was once yours. Israel has always been a Jewish homeland. And the proof is in the dirt.
Once the British Empire was done with it, it had to become SOME
You mean once a guerrila campaign waged by the Jews successful ousted the British from Palestine
yes south africa has sued them.
Im guessing many other countries could follow.
hey victor, want some land?
its free! all you have to do is convert to Judaism
and claim the torah has promised you a piece of land in Gaza.
/S
Washoe, this post is not acceptable. At best it’s antagonistic and lacks content; at worst it’s antisemitic.
This will be the only warning for further posts like this. Thank you
It might make good sense to you but many now regard Israel as a huge mistake. Jewish people should've been offered US citizenship after WW2 and new towns built.
But they weren't and moving away from that fabled land of Coulda Shoulda Woulda and back to planet Earth, the world has one Jewish state and why shouldn't that Jewish state have self determination? Like every other free state?
But they weren't and moving away from that fabled land of Coulda Shoulda Woulda and back to planet Earth, the world has one Jewish state and why shouldn't that Jewish state have self determination? Like every other free state?
Not really sure what self-determination means in this context. The most important thing was for Jewish people to be able to live without fear of persecution, and it didn't need creating a new pseudo-country bordered by Muslims to do that. What could possibly go wrong?
It was idea of its time, like Madagascar, that no one would seriously consider nowadays.
It may not justify it but since the Un and people like you only seem to villify Israel, it shows ignorance or antisemitism. Or both
Which is it trolly?
I'm against every ethnonationalist project, from the disastrous partition of India to the Ottoman genocides to Russia's genocide against Ukraine to the expulsion of Muslims from Gaza. It's trash 19th century ideology no matter which ethnic group is doing it, there isn't a single functional modern nation that operates that way.
"You'll only be safe around people who look and think like you" --it's just obviously garbage, never trust anyone who tells you this.
You mean once a guerrila campaign waged by the Jews successful ousted the British from Palestine
The Brits left EVERYWHERE my friend. Israel wasn't a weird anomaly. One by one, they left their old colonies and conquests.
In India this was cheered. In Israel it's...guerrilla?
Let's at least be consistent.
