Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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I dunno, I have to leave this thread right now, not because I would feel bad about calling you what you are mets and not because I'm afraid of getting banned and not because you don't deserve to be called lots of names, but because I feel like a sellout for refraining in order to spare Crossnerd. She's been very nice and I'm in a bind.
Rafah is the safe zone! FFS, it's where hundreds of thousands of refugees were told by the IDF to evacuate to, now it's being flattened.
Rafah normally has a pop of abut 180,000, now anywhere from 500,000 to a million+ people are jammed in there. IDF cannot drop a goddamn 2,000-lb bomb in a city full of refugees and pretend it gives a rip about killing civilians, that's absurd on its face, it's a cruel joke.
Don't you worry, I'm sure the citizens of Rafah will be given plenty of warning to evacuate to... wherever, that's their problem.
Rafah is the safe zone! FFS, it's where hundreds of thousands of refugees were told by the IDF to evacuate to, now it's being flattened.
Rafah normally has a pop of abut 180,000, now anywhere from 500,000 to a million+ people are jammed in there. IDF cannot drop a goddamn 2,000-lb bomb in a city full of refugees and pretend it gives a rip about killing civilians, that's absurd on its face, it's a cruel joke.
when did the bold happen?
It's Egypt's fault they won't protect the civilians from Israeli bombs. BTW, I hear there are secret Hamas tunnels that lead to Egypt, rut-roh...
Rafah is the safe zone! FFS, it's where hundreds of thousands of refugees were told by the IDF to evacuate to, now it's being flattened.
Rafah normally has a pop of abut 180,000, now anywhere from 500,000 to a million+ people are jammed in there. IDF cannot drop a goddamn 2,000-lb bomb in a city full of refugees and pretend it gives a rip about killing civilians, that's absurd on its face, it's a cruel joke.
At this point where can they even go to get out of the range for a 2,000-lb bomb?
Safe zones are being set up more in the center of gaxa and i would be in favor of Israel helping expedite their safety before dropping any bombs
Rafah is the safe zone! FFS, it's where hundreds of thousands of refugees were told by the IDF to evacuate to, now it's being flattened.
Rafah normally has a pop of abut 180,000, now anywhere from 500,000 to a million+ people are jammed in there. IDF cannot drop a goddamn 2,000-lb bomb in a city full of refugees and pretend it gives a rip about killing civilians, that's absurd on its face, it's a cruel joke.
Not really sure what self-determination means in this context. The most important thing was for Jewish people to be able to live without fear of persecution, and it didn't need creating a new pseudo-country bordered by Muslims to do that. What could possibly go wrong?
It was idea of its time, like Madagascar, that no one would seriously consider nowadays.
Moar woulda? Okay. But in the here and now present day real world there is a homeland for Jewish people called Israel. So why shouldn't they have the same self determination as every other free nation?
Nah. 'fraid not regardless of your pathological at this point insistence otherwise.
More slanderous bullshit. You can't tacitly accuse people of anti-semitism when they're saying they think that Jewish people should have been given a safe place in the US. But you do you.
The fact is your beloved but revolting country has become Apartheid in most regards but name - probably worse in fact.
Except it hasn't become Apartheid. Any more than it's doing genocide or all the other stale hyperbole the Greta Thumbergs of this thread hurl with tiresome regularity.
genocide is a generic term. its an abstraction.
I could just say this every time.
-mass murder of people
-mass decapitation of people
-mass burying alive of people
-mass burning alive of people
-mass blowing up of people
-mass starvation of people
-mass amputation of people
-mass torture of people where they are forced to sit blindfolded and in diapers for months on end
-destruction of all infrastucture including electricity, water, housing
ofc that is an incomplete list. genocide includes all of the rest of the heinous and bloodthirsty and depraved things that this morally bankrupt culture is committing. maybe I will just keep this nearby to copy and paste to avoid the abstraction that you focus on.
Israel is bad. like the Japanese were bad in WW2. the people who support them despite knowing how bad they are are bad too. just like the people who supported the Japanese massacres in the 30s and 40s. thats their legacy.
Not interested in your bullshit and Israel still aren't committing genocide.
It's not "apartheid," it's just that Israel dictates which "safe zones" the Palestinians are allowed to exist in.
It's a war, it's already an incredibly moral humanitarian effort for safe zones to exist in the first place.
Israel should focus 100% on the enemy disregarding everything else, every instant any IDF soldier spends to think about Palestinian civilians safety is not used to kill more Hamas people.
But with you guys it's never enough, which is why we should always go allin and just stop caring about you at all
sure fine
this is what they are doing
-mass murder of people
-mass decapitation of people
-mass burying alive of people
-mass burning alive of people
-mass blowing up of people
-mass starvation of people
-mass amputation of people
-mass torture of people where they are forced to sit blindfolded and in diapers for months on end
-destruction of all infrastucture including electricity, water, housing
I wont argue with you on if this is genocide or not. I would ask, why are you so hung up on the terminology? are you saying that if you dont call it genocide, then these things are fine and good?
Israel should focus 100% on the enemy disregarding everything else, every instant any IDF soldier spends to think about Palestinian civilians safety is not used to kill more Hamas people.
if they werent so hyper focused on murdering civilians, and did actually focus on Hamas, then there would be a lot fewer dead Israelis. but they just cant help themselves. its why they keep standing right in windows to snipe children. and keep allowing Hamas rocket launchers to walk right up to them.
It's not "apartheid," it's just that Israel dictates which "safe zones" the Palestinians are allowed to exist in.
Great glad it's settled that it's not apartheid and since Israel are designating safe zones, we can rule out the genocide bullshit as well. See trolly? You killed two birds with one stone with that one, props. 😀
sure fine
this is what they are doing
-mass murder of people
-mass decapitation of people
-mass burying alive of people
-mass burning alive of people
-mass blowing up of people
-mass starvation of people
-mass amputation of people
-mass torture of people where they are forced to sit blindfolded and in diapers for months on end
-destruction of all infrastucture including electricity, water, housing
I wont argue with you on if this is genocide or not.
Lol not interested in your C&P spam either bruv
Safe zones are being set up more in the center of gaxa and i would be in favor of Israel helping expedite their safety before dropping any bombs
If Israel does anything other than give an hour or whatever they did last time for hundreds of thousands of people to evacuate and no place for them to go, you can thank Biden.
The parents of Shani Louk, the 23-year-old tattoo artist killed by Hamas and paraded half-naked through Gaza like a trophy, described identifying their daughter’s body seven months after she was murdered by terrorists — hours after her remains were recovered in Rafah by Israeli soldiers.
“The body that we have now is complete and beautiful and looks like she’s alive actually,” said Shani’s father, Nissim Louk, telling The Post Friday that the condition of her body was “a miracle.”
“I think she’d been in one of the tunnels which was very, very cold…that’s why the body is complete and beautiful and the skin is still the same color, you still see the tattoos, it’s amazing,” he said told The Post as part of a conversation with Rabbi Shmuley Boteach.
Shani’s parents expressed relief that their daughter’s remains are back in Israel following the horrific Oct. 7 attack on southern Israel — which included a massacre at the Super Nova music festival Shani was attending.
“The army came and told us that the body of Shani was found and brought back to Israel…we’re happy that she’s back and can bury her properly,” said Shani’s mother Ricarda Louk.
