2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
Looks bad but ironically things are getting better for Biden.
In the must win state of Michigan the NY Times/Sienna has Biden up by 1% which makes it two of the last 3 polls where Biden is ahead.
In Wisconsin (another must win State) Times/Sienna has Biden trailing by 1%. But the previous poll had Biden up by 6%.
In PA Biden trails by 3% per the Times/Sienna, which is better than the prior poll and slightly worse than the next two. I am surp
I see Biden -7 in Michigan in times/sienna, which polls have you seen?
Almost this entire election cycle has been about 6 swing states. For context, the above map with those 6 states gray is the actual 2020 election result with those 6 states removed from the Biden win column and Trump retains everything from 2020. There is a funky, but unlikely tie possible if you give Trump PA and MI and Biden wins the other 4 swing states.
‘FACEOFF’: A Biden-Trump debate rematch.
Kudos to Trump accepting to debate Biden twice on Biden friendly networks . Biden refused Fox
I do remember CNN giving Biden the questions before a debate hopefully they don’t do it again
Love the cutoff mikes
I do remember my right wing derposphere social media feed telling me that CNN [gave] Biden the questions before a debate, and of course I believed it.
FYP.
From what I remember, there was no evidence of that actually happening, but perhaps some came later that I missed - if so, could you share it?
Pretty clear to me that both Biden and Trump simply agreed that RFK needs to stay out of debates, and he would have qualified under the formal (mom binding) rules so they skipped the formal rules.
This is interesting because it means RFK influence on voters is so hard to estimate, both candidates fear they might lose a little more than the other.
It's like both campaigns have internal polls showing RFK erodes them at the margins.
It makes sense given both candidates are particularly disliked in historical terms, but it's really sad to see such a grotesque individual capturing the middle, the undecided.
I think RFK is the rare person both pro Biden and pro Trump voters could identify as worse than Biden and worse than Trump
FYP.
From what I remember, there was no evidence of that actually happening, but perhaps some came later that I missed - if so, could you share it?
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/d...
Will be an interesting debate . Might be worth watching with cutoff Mikes . Now no one will see Joe get lost walking out on stage which is great for Biden .
Sad that RFK scares Joe and bans him from being there
Pretty clear to me that both Biden and Trump simply agreed that RFK needs to stay out of debates, and he would have qualified under the formal (mom binding) rules so they skipped the formal rules.
This is interesting because it means RFK influence on voters is so hard to estimate, both candidates fear they might lose a little more than the other.
I thought I heard biden said he would only debate if he got to pick the network, that there would be no crowd, the mikes would shut off at certain times and there would be no RFK. If that is the case I don't think it is fair to say trump is scarred of RFK too.
This is how fascism wins.
Mitt Romney, argued that President Joe Biden should have pardoned Donald Trump.
It's insane to me that people are upset over student loan forgiveness but not the tax breaks for the rich.
Why would you pardon someone who is still actively pulling the rug out from
under Democracy…. I’m all about “The Good of the Nation”, This is not that time!
I do remember CNN giving Biden the questions before a debate hopefully they don’t do it again
From what I remember, there was no evidence of that actually happening, but perhaps some came later that I missed - if so, could you share it?
Lozen repeats unfounded and discredited accusation that Biden got debate questions in advance, and when asked to provide evidence, gives a link to an article about Hillary Clinton being given possible questions in advance, and moves on. Lozen gunna Lozen.
Lozen repeats unfounded and discredited accusation that Biden got debate questions in advance, and when asked to provide evidence, gives a link to an article about Hillary Clinton being given possible questions in advance, and moves on. Lozen gunna Lozen.
Sorry I should have said a democrat that CNN favored received the questions from CNN in advance . My bad on screwing up whom received the questions in advance. I guess it was OK as Bernie Bad. So with that logic Trump bad give Biden the questions
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Top Republicans refuse to say that they will accept the 2024 Presidential election results
they left out one thing
they will accept them if Trump is declared the winner_____________guaran-effing-teed
they're some trashy mothereffers
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It would be nice if all schools went back to teaching academic skills instead of focusing on social justice indoctrination,
You are describing a fictional history of education thats never existed. Before any of us were born there were all sorts of social Justice pseudo educational schools like intelligent design and lost cause mythology that only served as social justice indoctrination. It’s not like these people were well educated back when that nonsense was more common, so you’re just complaining more that that conservative indoctrination was so poorly done as to get removed.
Mitt Romney is not the wise elder stateman that he thinks he is.
#1 More than 1,350 people have been charged with federal crimes related to the Capitol riot. Over 850 of them have been sentenced, with roughly two-thirds receiving a term of imprisonment ranging from a few days to 22 years.
#2 Ford's Nixon pardon was a pivotal moment in the Ford presidency. Historians believe that the controversy was one of the major reasons that Ford lost the election in 1976, and Ford agreed with that observation.
It's insane to me that people are upset over student loan forgiveness but not the tax breaks for the rich.
The big difference is that tax cuts allow people to keep more of the money that THEY EARNED.
Student loans are the opposite in that they require more money to be taken from taxpayers (which of course mainly comes from the rich) and given to those who haven’t earned it.
Sorry I should have said a democrat that CNN favored received the questions from CNN in advance . My bad on screwing up whom received the questions in advance. I guess it was OK as Bernie Bad. So with that logic Trump bad give Biden the questions
It was the DNC, not CNN that rigged those debates.
The big difference is that tax cuts allow people to keep more of the money that THEY EARNED.
Student loans are the opposite in that they require more money to be taken from taxpayers (which of course mainly comes from the rich) and given to those who haven’t earned it.
Would u prefer pay less tax but in return u make less money in income ?
U seem to believe someone making 25k per year pay less tax than someone making more ?
Isn’t true the tax rates is the same for the first 25k earned regardless what u make at the end of the year ?
You seem to believe an educated workforce bring nothing positive to the economy ….
Fwiw any forgiveness in debt isn’t solely reserve to student loans so why make a big fuss out of it when at least it’s for something positive ?
I mean u do see education as something positive right ?
If trump doesn’t mention at some point in each debate about how the only way Biden would debate is if he got home field advantage and pick the refs each debate that would be a huge mistake. I think this should be saved for when he feels the moderator and Biden are 2 vs 1 against him. When it happens the 2nd time - he should say something like I’m playing an away game and my opponent got to hand pick the referee.
Would u prefer pay less tax but in return u make less money in income ?
U seem to believe someone making 25k per year pay less tax than someone making more ?
Isn’t true the tax rates is the same for the first 25k earned regardless what u make at the end of the year ?
You seem to believe an educated workforce bring nothing positive to the economy ….
Fwiw any forgiveness in debt isn’t solely reserve to student loans so why make a big fuss out o
I don’t see how your first 3 questions are relevant to the conversation so my only answer is for #2: yes, most people who make 25k pay less taxes than most people who make over 25k.
I think an educated workforce is extremely valuable.
I can’t think of any tax payer forced loan forgiveness I would support, but I would love to hear some you think I should support. Student loan forgiveness is just another massive handout to the colleges and universities - it will continue to encourage kids to go to college who can’t afford it in hopes their debt will be forgiven too which in turn will continue to raise the price of education at a higher rate than general inflation.
If the govt wants to make college more affordable for more people they need to do less of what they think will make it more affordable - not more.
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Top Republicans refuse to say that they will accept the 2024 Presidential election results
they left out one thing
they will accept them if Trump is declared the winner_____________guaran-effing-teed
they're some trashy mothereffers
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Stacy Abrams and Hillary Clinton still haven't accepted the results of 2016
I don’t see how your first 3 questions are relevant to the conversation so my only answer is for #2: yes, most people who make 25k pay less taxes than most people who make over 25k.
I think an educated workforce is extremely valuable.
I can’t think of any tax payer forced loan forgiveness I would support, but I would love to hear some you think I should support. Student loan forgiveness is just another massive handout to the colleges and uni
There is also the "little" problems of degrees not being all worth the same at all. Gvmnt could subsidize what has objective positive externalities with favourable rates for ex: you are qualified for a STEM degree? we lend you at fed fund rates. DEI degrees? no lending, actual tax for the negative externalities.
That’s a complete lie. Clinton gave a concession speech and attended Trump’s inauguration. Why tell such obvious lies without even bothering to check? Just shows to everyone how little tiki care about being accurate, fair or honest.
