Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.

This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.

Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.

Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.

So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.

Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.

So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.

We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.

Thanks.

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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Ravioli is a sandwich.


by Luckbox Inc P

Pizza is not just an open-faced sandwich. You can draw the line exactly there. Once you start baking the dough with the rest of it then it no longer becomes a sandwich. Otherwise yes you're correct that there can be plenty of room for latitude.


Does putting a sandwich in a toaster oven make it not a sandwich? Checkmate, gluten boy!


by DonkJr P

Does putting a sandwich in a toaster oven make it not a sandwich? Checkmate, gluten boy!

if you're starting from raw dough then not a sandwich and if the bread material is already baked then it still can be.


A judge ruled that tacos and burritos are sandwiches. What do you think?

If there’s one thing you can count on, it’s that people will never tire of arguing about what does and doesn’t constitute a sandwich. A judge in Fort Wayne, Indiana, contributed to the ongoing debate on May 13 by ruling that tacos and burritos are indeed sandwiches after a years-long court case, WISH-TV reports.

“Tacos and burritos are Mexican-style sandwiches,” Allen County Superior Court Judge Craig J. Bobay wrote in his ruling.


The legal case started in 2022 when restaurateur Martin Quintana announced plans to open The Famous Taco Mexican Grill in a Fort Wayne strip mall. The local planning commission rejected Quintana’s bid, citing a prior agreement that only restaurants selling “made-to-order or subway-style sandwiches” without outdoor seating or alcohol would be permitted, CBS 4 reports.
Judge Bobay ruled in Quintana’s favour, saying that “the original Written Commitment does not restrict potential restaurants to only American cuisine-style sandwiches.” The judge added that made-to-order gyros, naan wraps or banh mi would also be allowed, provided the restaurants complied with the other conditions.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/...


tacos sandwiches

burritos no. A sandwich cannot be completely enclosed by bready stuff and still be a sandwich.

Otherwise you start calling stuff like gyoza or ravioli (sorry bgp but no) sandwiches, and they are not.


I don't see that in any definition.

two or more slices of bread or a split roll having a filling in between.


by Bluegrassplayer P

I don't see that in any definition.

Nothing in the definition you gave allows for the filling to be completely enclosed.


by formula72 P

[B]t “the original Written Commitment does not restrict potential restaurants to only American cuisine-style sandwiches.” The judge added that made-to-order gyros, naan wraps or banh mi would also be allowed, provided the restaurants complied with the other conditions.[/I]

Even under the most stringent definitions, banh mi is a sandwich. It's made with French bread ffs. Silly for the judge to add that.


Nothing disallows it, so I don't think what you're saying is accurate.

If I were to take a sub and then seal the roll around the sides it ceases to be a sandwich?


by Bluegrassplayer P

Nothing disallows it, so I don't think what you're saying is accurate.

If I were to take a sub and then seal the roll around the sides it ceases to be a sandwich?

Yes it would no longer be a sandwich at that point. You would have made yourself some sort of unbaked calzone. Close but not a sandwich.


Which is another type of sandwich:

2 or more slices of bread, a bread roll or similar that are sold with a filling


It's like trying to argue that opossums are rodents. They just aren't.

Yeah they could be. And sort of are like them. But they aren't.


Everyone knows that opossums are marsupials, not rodents. Come on!


Lunchbox is fixin to be served a knuckle sandwich.


by formula72 P

A judge in Fort Wayne, Indiana, contributed to the ongoing debate on May 13 by ruling that tacos and burritos are indeed sandwiches after a years-long court case, WISH-TV reports.

Well, there's the problem right there


by formula72 P

Lunchbox is fixin to be served a knuckle sandwich.

Guy is here trying to argue that ravioli is a sandwich and I'm the one being threatened with violence. Some forum they're running here.


by Luckbox Inc P

Nothing in the definition you gave allows for the filling to be completely enclosed.


Please tell that to my kid's pre-school. You'd be murdered by toddlers. Torn limb from limb. :p


Yeah those are little PB&J calzonitas.

They just call them sandwiches because we don't really have a word in English for what those actually are.


Should we sue Smucker's for false advertising?


by Luckbox Inc P

Guy is here trying to argue that ravioli is a sandwich and I'm the one being threatened with violence. Some forum they're running here.

Surprised you didn't tell him it's actually a "knuckle calzonita".


by Crossnerd P

Should we sue Smucker's for false advertising?

I think it's ok.

I did see some ad for some sort of plant based meat the other day that was like "It's meat, just made from plants"...and I was like damn yeah sue them.


by Trolly McTrollson P

Honest to blog, when I fist head the "Well Palestinian is a nationality so it's not racist to call them bloodthirsty savages" bit I thought it was so immediately stupid on its face that it didn't warrant a response. Like a month later and they're still trotting it out! I sort of have to assume it's bad faith, like I don't think it's humanly possible to be that obtuse and live independently without some sort of live-in assistance.

I still can't figure out why anyone wants to claim racism about something that has nothing to do with race. It's like they can't figure out any other words for bias based on things apart from race.


by Didace P

I always get a chuckle when Luciom opines on how English works.

He's correct in this case, regarding the use of "an" in that definition.

I have always thought of ethnicity as being kind of a subgroup of race, but the definition given certainly wouldn't imply that. Maybe I have always misunderstood what most others mean by ethnicity, or else most people in the US just use it to mean something different than that defintion.


by Bluegrassplayer P

I don't see that in any definition.

Pasta is not the same as bread!


by Crossnerd P

Should we sue Smucker's for false advertising?

You could do so. You might even win.


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