ex-President Trump

There's a good portion of the country who speaks at the same grade level as him.
They love him because "he says what he means."
Then spent four years telling us when he talks, "that's not what he meant."

pretty bad when an italian right-wing idiot has to correct a local right-wing idiot.

don't you guys have meetings or anything?

Wikipedia is obviously not a scholarly source, but when you're at the point that you simply dismiss Wikipedia and instead espouse D'Souza as a source for, well, anything, there's really no point even discussing politics with you.

Can you write what you think without insulting me? did you read the forum rules?

That's rich.

don't recall naming you. self-conscious much?

how many italian posters have corrected another poster in this thread recently? is this kindergarten?

it's ok, i said peacefully earlier in my speech. you must have missed it.

Definitely on thinman’s side here. No names were used, no reason to be claim without evidence you’re being attacked

As an example if I identified, silently, as a craven fascist sociopath and thinman made a broad generalization attacking craven fascist sociopaths without naming anyone, it would not be in my best interest to accuse him of attacking me specifically. DUCY?

#Thinman will return to us in 24 hours. Personal attacks are against the rules of the forum.

I would very strongly advise against this sort of sophistry, lest there be a further need for more timeouts.

Read again , all the sources wiki link to , are from encyclopedias, dictionaries ,etc .
So let’s burn all those books in the library because you have a conspiracy source ?
lol…

Lol i am the only Italian writing here, evidence was clear.

It 's as if someone wrote "that XYZ with a nick about the interruption of waterfall from the sky "

Again what sources d’souza provides beside his own conspiracy opinion ?

But here again the sources wiki based on if u just dare to look into …

But again explain to me how democrats being accused for years being communist can be fascist at the same time ???

Yes I always forget with him …
It’s the same pattern he got in the Covid and climate changes thread .
I book or opinion piece for him is big enough to eradicate the 99% of the evidence on the other side because 1= 99 .

Souza makes up a lot of "sources" both misinterpreting statements by officials in various cases, and taking up claims by single unvetted individuals who can basically invent whatever (think something like "I was working counting ballots and I saw democrats putting new ballots after the vote closed") .

It's a waste of time to debunk the web of unsubstantiated allegations, misinterpreted claims and so on.

As for the fascist/communist thing, that's actually not as incoherent as you think.

There are circles on the right (the minarchist/libertarian right) who always considered fascism and Nazism just as folkloristic variants of socialism (because they actually are).

It's about what comes first, the individual as the source of dignity, and meaning for human life, or the collective as represented by the state.

For us, anyone putting the state above individuals is a malign force, and no matter how they differentiate what they want to do "for the collective good", even positing a collective good exists AND violating individual unalienable negative rights to try to pursue it, is dictatorship (which inherently requires leftism, IE statism).

As for fascism specifically, Mussolini was actually a socialist for years, the editor of the main Italian socialist newspaper, and for us on the libertarian right, anyone who ever was a socialist is forever tainted by it and cannot escape that.

Wikipedia clearly lists its sources. You should check it out. They are linked at the bottom of each page

Every extremes uses common « tools » to reach different goals .
It’s end up in a circle on that regard but let’s not confound the 2 togethers…
Both are extremely bad but it doesn’t means they are the same .

One is far right and the other is far left and Russia made a terrible war vs Germany despite being both totalitarian states .

I could say the same about anyone using a left wing hack as a source. Which is often in this forum. And you know what they say. Even a broken clock can be right twice a day. In this case i agreed with his characterisation of the modern left as more fascist than the right. That doesn't mean I agree with everything he says.

But suit yourself. If you don't want to engage then don't.

What do you view as the most neutral source? I always thought aljazeera

Honouring Memorial Day in a respectful, totally not unhinged, normal manner...
🙄

That is definitely a man who should be president again