Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
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Islam is relevant to the topic, you horrible idiot.
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/arti...
IDF uncover weapons stored in UNRWA school
Many weapons were discovered during the operation, including firearms, grenades, and enemy uniforms.
Getting to be every other day they find these now.
Telling y'all, I have no beef if you dislike the current Israeli political machine. Join the club.
But these Hamas guys ain't it. These guys fight as dirty as you can fight, and take innocent lives down with them because of these methods. They shouldn't be anywhere near these schools and hospitals. And there would be no reason to go near them if they fought in a way that minimized civilian exposure.
I thought the new UNWRA bill the other day was heavy handed. But now I'm not so sure.
Schlitz mmmm will be back in a month for probably his last try. Thank you, friends.
He had years of difficulty due to his guilty plea to cannabis possession in London in 1968. But in 1976 he did get his Green Card. Of course, if he hadn't, and he'd come back to the UK, he'd have lived longer and might still be alive now.
I count down the days till Vic returns
I was asking for some validation of your claims about the streets here being taken over with violent acts, but from a credible news source, not a one man youtube in his bedroom spouting unsubstantiated nonsense.
Is this clown the best you can do?
He provides unfiltered up to the minute news. He has a pretty big team that works for him. He has over 500,000 subscribers.
The video doesn't lie.
I realize this video is from three years ago. I post it here to show just how heated this conflict is. Notice that the pro Israeli folks are dancing, smiling and having a good time. The anti Israel folks are angry and shouting awful things. Notice how violent the anti Israel folks are. There comes a point when the NYPD declares this an unlawful assembly. Notice who fights back at the cops. Notice who gets arrested. Notice the pro Israeli folks still smiling and dancing.
Unfortunately, those who have the power in Islam are those who are most extreme. Notice you don't see top Muslim leaders condemning the actions of the terrorists. This is sad because most Muslims are good people. The violent rhetoric from the Quran was written during a violent time. It's time for these nations to evolve into the modern times. Notice it's mostly the youth who are being brainwashed and bread to hate. This is scary stuff. I hope people will realize that Israel is not just bombing innocent civilians. They are going after the monsters that want them dead.
If you're scared about things that haven't happened for three years I don't know how you survive really. Poor you though. Maybe take a break?
This video is from three years ago. This type of rioting is happening everyday. I just thought this was a good one showing the differences between the two sides. Also, YouTube has a way of making videos like this disappear these days. They don't support the "Poor Palestinian" narrative.
discounting womens' voices huh? wow
Hamas just released a video of a drone trying to drop a munition on Israeli troops and missing. I am not sure what they were hoping to accomplish a failure. However, this brings up an important point. Hezbollah is much less likely to miss in a comparable position.
So if/when Israel decides to finally deal with Lebanon declaring war on Israel and repeatedly attacking it, expect Lebanon to be bombed back to the Stone Age before any troops enter. It would just be too deadly otherwise.
Of course, Lebanon could stop attacking Israel and this could all be avoided. But they dont seem inclined to do that right now.
This video is from three years ago. This type of rioting is happening everyday. I just thought this was a good one showing the differences between the two sides. Also, YouTube has a way of making videos like this disappear these days. They don't support the "Poor Palestinian" narrative.
You said you posted it because it shows just how heated this conflict is.
But there not being more recent videos available showing how heated this conflict is is a problem for your attempts to persuade us that zomg the west is on fire!!1!11!!
So you make the claim that youtube has been taking down videos that don't show the pro-Palestine side in a good light. But then you've just linked to a very active very anti-Palestine "news" stream, contradicting yourself again.
Meanwhile everyone else has been going about their business quite normally in London and New York.
I think we are just a couple tent bombings away from victory!
You said you posted it because it shows just how heated this conflict is.
But there not being more recent videos available showing how heated this conflict is is a problem for your attempts to persuade us that zomg the west is on fire!!1!11!!
So you make the claim that youtube has been taking down videos that don't show the pro-Palestine side in a good light. But then you've just linked to a very active very anti-Palestine "news" stream, co
Seems the bigger problem is that as soon as an area becomes majority Muslim, it starts exclusively electing local Muslim representatives, that more often than not platform on partisan activist positions on conflicts thousands of miles away Britain isn't even involved in. Doesn't seem ideal for democracy to be working this way. But what do I know.
I dont live in Britain and will probably never even visit. If Brits are happy with how things are going, then I guess democracy is working just fine. We can revisit this topic again in 30 years and see how everything worked out I guess.
Why don’t you read the citation. That’s the important part of Wikipedia
Ok I’ll spell it out for you
“A person who is not professionally employed in the armed forces; a non military person”
Oxford English Dictionary
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Then you should have just posted the definition, because the nuanced take off the article says that people engaging combat are not considered to be civilians.
Of course this entire thread of argument is pointless and it doesn't matter who a definition considers a civilian.
I’m not perfect. Shoulda woulda coulda. You guys shoulda looked up definitions of words before arguing about them
You should have too.
https://okdiario.com/espana/hasta-2-mill...
--I dont speak Spanish, so please correct me if I was given a poor explanation of what this article says. But my understanding is The Minister of Foreign Affairs is asking other govt officials to stop the "genocide" rhetoric, as this would open an argument Spain should legally provide Palestinians asylum.
So the implication of this logic is either that Spanish officials don't believe their own rhetoric is true, or don't believe they should be following their own laws regarding providing asylum to people undergoing a genocide.
Then you should have just posted the definition, because the nuanced take off the article says that people engaging combat are not considered to be civilians.
Of course this entire thread of argument is pointless and it doesn't matter who a definition considers a civilian.
Yes this is what happens when people don’t check their sources. I post definitions and you guys are like nuh uhhhhh
Way more fun (and effective) for you guys to figure it out yourselves.
So far I’ve had to teach the forum what feminism meant, what a traitor is and now what a civilian is. Yay
