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ex-President Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at low-info Boomers like my religions aunts. I have two questions:

a) Is anyone here who supports Trump bothered by lies like this?

b) Does anyone know what he's even talking about here? Like is there some grain of truth that he's embellishing on bigly?

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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Things can be determined to be inadmissable evidence because it is not relevant, illegally obtained or doesn't have the required indicia of credibility.

Relevant and otherwise admissable evidence can be excluded under 403 if it's prejudicial nature outweighs it's probative value. (Slighted provided the exact language)

I think DS may be confusing the two.


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again i would assume/hope the judge would be able to put that aside in their decision making, but who knows if that's even possible with humans.[/QUOTE]

I could do it.


You couldn’t even properly quote a post


by StoppedRainingMen P

You couldn’t even properly quote a post



Awesome!


Here's a nice little summation of the rigged Stalinist show trial carried out against Donald J Trump in NYC.

- The Soros funded DA elevated a misdemeanor to a felony despite lowering 60% of all felonies for actual criminals in his jurisdiction
- The lead prosecutor resigned his position as the 3rd highest ranking member of Biden's DOJ to join Alvin Bragg's team going after Trump.
- The judge donated to Joe Biden and has a daughter who raised millions of dollars for Democrats off the Trump prosecutions
- The other lead prosecutor also donated to Joe Biden
- The lead witness that the whole case relies on is a convicted perjurer and serial liar who admitted during the trial to stealing money from the Trump organization
- The judge put a gag order on Donald Trump for pointing out the political conflicts of interest of the people prosecuting him
- The "crime" relies on the idea that Trump paid off Stormy Daniels to conceal another crime, which is not mentioned in the indictment.
- The judge barred Trump's defense from explaining to jury that no campaign finance violation occurred but allowed prosecutors to assert as fact in their closing that there was.
- The judge cleared out the court room when Michael Cohen's former attorney was exonerating Trump but allowed the prosecution to bring in Stormy Daniels to talk about whether or not Trump used a condom.
- The judge barred a former FEC commissioner from testifying that Donald Trump did nothing wrong.
- The judge is allowing the jury to not have to reach a unanimous verdict on the underlying, unnamed crime Trump committed.

Here's my prediction:

In November the American people will deliver the real and only verdict that matters when the mighty Donald J Trump is re-elected as the 47th President of the United States. That will be followed by the biggest snowflake meltdown in world history.


Here's my prediction:

when that doesn't happen, you will whine like a little bitch that the election was rigged


Lol @ "Soros funded DA". BJ going hard to reclaim moron of the day after being upstaged by that rage tilt MAGAtard yesterday.


lol this meltdown is almost as good as the extended meltdown when Biden won and all the predictions about the being overturned never happened.


by Luciom P

Yes and nothing inside it can be violated by individuals in a private capacity

So you think Biden violated the constitution by strong-arming media companies. Do you think he actually called them all personally?

I don't know what happened, but let's say he called some of his personal friends and said:

"I'm not speaking here as the president, but as someone who has been your friend for 50 years. You know, I really wish these social media companies would not to allow so many posts with what I consider to be medical misinformation. I've been seeing that so many people have been dying out there and it really makes me sad."

and then one of those guys calls a FaceBook executive, maybe one he already knew socially, and said:

"hey there, I was just talking to my buddy Joe (Joe Biden, the president?), yeah that one, we've been friends for years. Anyway, he happened to mention that he would really like it if you could put a stop to all of that Covid denying posts and such that he's seen on FaceBook. We'd both really appreciate if you could get on that."

If this happened the way I just presented it, do you think the constitution has been violated? If so, by whom and on exactly what grounds?


by Brian James P

Here's a nice little summation of the rigged Stalinist show trial carried out against Donald J Trump in NYC.

- The Soros funded DA elevated a misdemeanor to a felony despite lowering 60% of all felonies for actual criminals in his jurisdiction
- The lead prosecutor resigned his position as the 3rd highest ranking member of Biden's DOJ to join Alvin Bragg's team going after Trump.
- The judge donated to Joe Biden and has a daughter who raised m

Trump still broke laws to help himself in a presidential election. The paper trail was clear as day. Cohens testimony didn’t seal anyone’s fate.


What punishment should Trump have for commiting those felonies?


by jbouton P

There is countless references/evidence from the twitter files as I understand of government forcing social media to comply government censorship of truth. My understanding is the social media platforms are in fact legally compelled.

When jack ran twitter it was a concerted effort against the right/republicans etc mostly.

Saying its 'left' as a opposed to right would make one blind to what happened.

Also elon owns it now as X, but its no

You think that FaceBook is legally compelled to do what the president wants, but Truth Social isn't?

And you think that Twitter was forced to do what the president wanted, but now that Musk bought it and changed the name to X, it can do whatever it wants?

🙄

Do you even think about these kinds of things before spreading ridiculous conspiracy theories?


by Luciom P

Wtf? Imagine there is something that materially benefits the top 5% of household while it damages everyone else.

What do you mean with a concept being "correct"? Elites can correctly assess something benefits them even if it's a met negative for society and pursue it rationally.

They would be elite in doing that

Mostly agree and obviously i was refering to Sklansky's comment as it perains to democracy rather than juries.

People who get to the top in dc, ws, silicon valley etc are mostly smart and educated. As you say, they don't favor these policies out of stupidity

There's also a selection for insatiable desire for power and wealth. This is a problem for every system. Those completely consumed by these things climb to the top eventually and take over. They inbue the system with these values.

They are rational in pursuit of these things but irrational and even deranged in the degree to which they over value them.

A healthy, moral person probably has little desire to be a powerful lobbyist, let alone devote their lives to pursuing that at all costs.

Arguably they are also irrational because, e.g. destroying the middle class with student debt makes money now but means fewer future customers. Similar with the environment and other issues.


by jbouton P

I don't think anyone believes biden controls anything.

You think "the government" controls things like social media, but Biden doesn't control anything?

Do you think Trump would control anything if he were elected?

If not, why do you even have an opinion about who should be the next president, as neither one will control anything?


by Luciom P

If Trump rubber stamps actual conservative decisions, that's still proof trump does actually act in the interest of conservative values.

Nobody should care about what a politician is, the only thing that matters is what he does. And unlike in 2016, we have a track record now.

And trump is one of the least dangerous presidents possible if congress doesn't align with him. He just likes golf too much.

Now under the assumption the Senate will be r

Yes, we understand that you would prefer government gridlock on all issues so that nothing ever changes. Almost no one else prefers that, certainly not those in the American electorate.


It's really easy to be a conspiracy theorist Trumper. Just go to the Twitter, account of right wing loony Greg Price, cut and paste and pass it off as your own:

Just a quick recap of the Juan Merchan/Alvin Bragg show trial in NYC:

- The Soros funded DA elevated a misdemeanor to a felony despite lowering 60% of all felonies for actual criminals in his jurisdiction
- The lead prosecutor resigned his position as the 3rd highest ranking member of Biden's DOJ to join Alvin Bragg's team going after Trump.
- The judge donated to Joe Biden and has a daughter who raised millions of dollars for Democrats off the Trump prosecutions
- The other lead prosecutor also donated to Joe Biden
- The lead witness that the whole case relies on is a convicted perjurer and serial liar who admitted during the trial to stealing money from the Trump organization
- The judge put a gag order on Donald Trump for pointing out the political conflicts of interest of the people prosecuting him
- The "crime" relies on the idea that Trump paid off Stormy Daniels to conceal another crime, which is not mentioned in the indictment.
- The judge barred Trump's defense from explaining to jury that no campaign finance violation occurred but allowed prosecutors to assert as fact in their closing that there was.
- The judge cleared out the court room when Michael Cohen's former attorney was exonerating Trump but allowed the prosecution to bring in Stormy Daniels to talk about whether or not Trump used a condom.
- The judge barred a former FEC commissioner from testifying that Donald Trump did nothing wrong.
- The judge is allowing the jury to not have to reach a unanimous verdict on the underlying, unnamed crime Trump committed.

What did I miss?

Man, is DTS easy when you don't have to think.


I especially like how the prosecutors are supposedly prejudiced against defendant Trump. You know, their adversary in court. BJ will be telling us Trump's defence lawyers are prejudiced *for* Trump next.


Lol. What's up snowflakes? Did I trigger another episode of TDS?


Right. We’re all gonna go insane and storm the Capitol.


Man blowjob sure owned him some libs today


Who could have possibly imagined that ****ing a porn star, paying her off with business funds and trying to claim it as a legal expense on your taxes might get you in trouble?

Not Blowie.


by chillrob P

You think that FaceBook is legally compelled to do what the president wants, but Truth Social isn't?

And you think that Twitter was forced to do what the president wanted, but now that Musk bought it and changed the name to X, it can do whatever it wants?

🙄

Do you even think about these kinds of things before spreading ridiculous conspiracy theories?

by chillrob P

You think "the government" controls things like social media, but Biden doesn't control anything?

Do you think Trump would control anything if he were elected?

If not, why do you even have an opinion about who should be the next president, as neither one will control anything?

I was under the impression nobody thinks biden, as a human, makes these state decisions.

I don't think trump becoming president fixes this problem no.

There is countless evidence of social media sites being legally compelled to suppress truth during covid. The twitter files for example. I think X is just as much a state run platform as twitter was, just rebranded. This will come out. Its obvious.


by jbouton P

I was under the impression nobody thinks biden, as a human, makes these state decisions.

I don't think trump becoming president fixes this problem no.

There is countless evidence of social media sites being legally compelled to suppress truth during covid. The twitter files for example. I think X is just as much a state run platform as twitter was, just rebranded. This will come out. Its obvious.

I don't use X, but those hear who do have said that there are lots of posts criticizing the current administration and the government in general.


by chillrob P

Yes, we understand that you would prefer government gridlock on all issues so that nothing ever changes. Almost no one else prefers that, certainly not those in the American electorate.

From the opposite side, many democrat senators are polling 7-10 points better than Biden, some even more.

That's quite a lot of people who actually want a divided government even if they are aiming for a Democratic Senate with Trump POTUS.


by ES2 P

Mostly agree and obviously i was refering to Sklansky's comment as it perains to democracy rather than juries.

People who get to the top in dc, ws, silicon valley etc are mostly smart and educated. As you say, they don't favor these policies out of stupidity

There's also a selection for insatiable desire for power and wealth. This is a problem for every system. Those completely consumed by these things climb to the top eventually and take

The environment theme should remind you that even among the elite there are deep divisions. While some things could find unity or close to that among the elite (say a preference for very low capital gain taxes), there are elites who gain materially from gmnvt hyper regulation of environmental issues and others who lose a lot from it


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