Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

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by Dunyain P

I guess I am not smart enough to figure out where you are going with all the AI and panda talk. Shrug.

I first thought he was referring to this news from a few days ago, but I don't think it's getting much attention.

https://apnews.com/article/giant-pandas-...


by jbouton P

The reward to take USD reserve control and miltary power away from israel, which includes us and nato. You call that not a big reward?

You think Israel is in control of the US military and the federal reserve??

Seems like someone should be sent to the conspiracy theory thread.


by chillrob P

I first thought he was referring to this news from a few days ago, but I don't think it's getting much attention.

https://apnews.com/article/giant-pandas-...

It must be a sign. Have button and playbig been seen in the same room together? They can probably put this altogether.


by chillrob P

You think Israel is in control of the US military and the federal reserve??

Seems like someone should be sent to the conspiracy theory thread.

I'm just being short with my words. Its a reference to the military support that Israel requires right now. Which to me includes the middle east being full of a coalitional build up.

For the reserve currency etc. Its not very edgy to suggest that American debt is at the crux of both of these conflicts.

Take those away and Israel has an existential problem given the recent events.


by jbouton P

I'm just being short with my words. Its a reference to the military support that Israel requires right now. Which to me includes the middle east being full of a coalitional build up.

For the reserve currency etc. Its not very edgy to suggest that American debt is at the crux of both of these conflicts.

Take those away and Israel has an existential problem given the recent events.

Ok point noted.

I'm suggesting we all move on now before we descend to deep into whatever this is.


by ES2 P

The Mafia are horrible.

Yep.

Sadly, many Italian civilians have friends and family linked to the mob. And even more people are foolish enough to think they are cool. Or protect them out of fear or ethnic loyalty

True.

This makes them hard to get rid of.

Yep.

Well, i guess the only solution is to keep indiscriminately killing Italians until every trace of the mafia is gone.

What? No!

Checkmate. I've proven you love the mafia.

The Mafia doesn't poll at 80% in Italy and doesn't have it's official party ruling Italy with an armed paramilitary wing.

If / when that should happen, please give italians the option to relocate if they want (like palestinians had for decades) and then carpet bomb those who stay until there is no more mafia yes.


What a lie.
The Italian mafia is deeply engrained into Italien society and you can never change that. The ruling Party is not "mafia" and has no Military wing???
80%? Its more than that probably.
U dont know whos on their roll.
Berlusconi? Lol mafia

Berlusconi is mafia, right?
Well he ruled the country for what 50 years??? And now meloni has no mafia Connections??? Who are u kiddinz here??


Relocate?? Lmao
Palestinians get relocated and then the relocation has no water and no food.
So first they get starved to death in that "relocation" and then it gets bombed.


by washoe P

Relocate?? Lmao
Palestinians get relocated and then the relocation has no water and no food.
So first they get starved to death in that "relocation" and then it gets bombed.

washoe, relocated in other countries, like palestinians had the option to do for decades.


Where did palestinians have the option to relocate??????????????

Just give one location!!!!

Or better tell us how many did relocate and how. What %?


by washoe P

Where did palestinians have the option to relocate??????????????

Just give one location!!!!

The countries outside the Palestinian territories with significant Palestinian populations are:

Jordan 3,240,000
Israel 1,650,000
Syria 630,000
Chile 500,000 (largest Palestinian community outside the Middle East).
Lebanon 402,582
Saudi Arabia 280,245
Egypt 270,245
United States 255,000 (the largest concentrations in Chicago, Detroit and Los Angeles; History of Palestinians in Los Angeles).
Honduras 250,000
Guatemala est. 200,000
Mexico 120,000
Qatar 100,000
Germany 80,000
Kuwait 80,000
El Salvador 70,000
Brazil 59,000
Iraq 57,000
Yemen 55,000
Canada 50,975
Australia 45,000
Libya 44,000
Puerto Rico est. 30,000
Greece est. 30,000
United Kingdom 20,000
Peru 19,000
Denmark 15,000
Colombia 12,000
Japan est. 10,000
Paraguay 10,000
Netherlands 9,000
Sweden 7,000
Algeria 4,030
Austria 4,010
Norway 3,825
The rest of Latin America, India, Russia, Sub-Saharan Africa and East Asia has fairly small Palestinian populations. [citation needed]
The majority of the estimated 100,000 Palestinians in the European Union (EU) are in Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain and Sweden. Outside the EU is the United Kingdom, Norway and Switzerland. Germany's capital Berlin has one of the largest Palestinian communities outside of the Middle East with about 30,000-40,000 people of Palestinian origin residing in the city (~1% of the total population).[15]

In the United States, this includes a Palestinian community of 800-1,000 in Gallup, New Mexico, highly involved in the area's Southwest jewelry


Washoe the current president of the italian republic had his brother assassinated by the mafia. Your comment was very offensive because it is very false among other things, and because today is the italian national day in which we celebrate our republic and our head of state brother was the sicilian leader of the democrazia cristiana, the party that ruled italy for 40+ years, and was killed by the mafia in 1980.

I reported your post for anti-italian racism


Im talking about now!

You dont understand who these people are who emmigrated.


by washoe P

Im talking about now!

You dont understand who these people are who emmigrated.

Try to read again my post to which you responded then: i said that if the mafia in italiy ever reaches the power and public support hamas has in palestine, just give italians the chance to relocate like palestinians had decades to do, then carpet bomb until the mafia is no more.


Then i report yours for lies about italy AND about palestine.

That is islamophobic/ racist x 10000000000


by Luciom P

Washoe the current president of the italian republic had his brother assassinated by the mafia. Your comment was very offensive because it is very false among other things, and because today is the italian national day in which we celebrate our republic and our head of state brother was the sicilian leader of the democrazia cristiana, the party that ruled italy for 40+ years, and was killed by the mafia in 1980.

I reported your post for anti

ANTI italian?? I am italian!!!

Maybe look up what the italian mafia is doing isntead of lyinz about it!!

Youree lying about italy and i say the Truth.


by Luciom P

Washoe the current president of the italian republic had his brother assassinated by the mafia. Your comment was very offensive because it is very false among other things, and because today is the italian national day in which we celebrate our republic and our head of state brother was the sicilian leader of the democrazia cristiana, the party that ruled italy for 40+ years, and was killed by the mafia in 1980.

I reported your post for anti

According to you it's not possible to be racist against Italians.


but the forum rules aren't based on my definition of words, and I play the game by the rules that exist not the rules I would like


A senior Netanyahu adviser said Biden's Friday speech presenting a proposal for a cease-fire deal with Hamas was "political." PM Netanyahu is seeking to bypass normal procedures for a state commission of inquiry into October 7, sources close to the PM told Haaretz. Israel is preparing an alternative governing body for Gaza to challenge Hamas, Defense Minister Gallant said. Egypt said Israel must withdraw from the Rafah border crossing in order for it to resume operations.


Netanyahu's chief foreign policy adviser Ophir Falk was quoted by the U.K.'s Sunday Times as saying U.S. President Biden made "a political speech for whatever reasons" on Friday when he presented a proposal for a hostage and cease-fire deal between Israel and Hamas. Falk said Israel is not rejecting the deal, which he called "a deal we agreed to – it's not a good deal, but we dearly want the hostages released, all of them." Netanyahu has yet to publicly address Biden's speech or the deal he presented in it, both of which were coordinated with Israel.
The White House expects Israel to abide by its three-phased cease-fire proposal should Hamas accept the deal, U.S. National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby told ABC's This Week, adding that "it is an Israeli proposal, one that they arrived at after intense diplomacy with their own national security team and over at the State Department."
"The pomp and circumstance around Biden's delivery – as well as his pointed comments directed toward Israeli spoilers, and the immediate support emerging from international leaders and former U.S. President Barack Obama – made it clear that the onus would also be on Israel to not let the moment pass it by" – Ben Samuels


by Luciom P

but the forum rules aren't based on my definition of words, and I play the game by the rules that exist not the rules I would like

That's very principled of you.


Yes I respect private property rights


by Dunyain P

Well, rest assured when Israel eventually decides they have destroyed enough of Gaza and leave (which current news seems to indicate may be sooner than later) the people of Gaza have a bright, great future ahead of them.

Just kidding. They are completely ****ed. Hamas was brutal when they were the big dog unchallenged. In their current weakened, vulnerable state they will have to be absolutely savage and ruthless to retain and re-estab

The religious right who are keeping Netanyahu in power don't want Israel to leave Gaza. They want Israel to re-settle it and ethnically cleanse the Palestinians. This would, of course, be problematic -- not least for Israel -- like the whole of Israel's imperial policy since 1967.


by Luciom P

The countries outside the Palestinian territories with significant Palestinian populations are:

Jordan 3,240,000
Israel 1,650,000
Syria 630,000
Chile 500,000 (largest Palestinian community outside the Middle East).
Lebanon 402,582
Saudi Arabia 280,245
Egypt 270,245
United States 255,000 (the largest concentrations in Chicago, Detroit and Los Angeles; History of Palestinians in Los Angeles).
Honduras 250,000
Guatemala est. 200,000
Mexico 120,000
Qatar 1

Kind of looks like a diaspora, doesn't it? In circumstances of oppression, expropriation, ethnic cleansing and persecution that we all know about. Maybe there should be a Blinken Declaration, viewing with US imperial favour the establishment of a national homeland for the Palestinians in, erm, Palestine.

Yes, I know.


by ES2 P

The Mafia are horrible.

Yep.

Sadly, many Italian civilians have friends and family linked to the mob. And even more people are foolish enough to think they are cool. Or protect them out of fear or ethnic loyalty

True.

This makes them hard to get rid of.

Yep.

Well, i guess the only solution is to keep indiscriminately killing Italians until every trace of the mafia is gone.

What? No!

Checkmate. I've proven you love the mafia.

What? You’ve gotta be dumb as a rock to post this. Holy **** lol. Might as well tell us you have no idea what you’re talking about.


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