Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by 5 south P

It's not obvious? You were like omg, one person put some genocide graffiti, stop the presses. When like 8hrs prior you're clutching your pearls over one person holding a sign.

The sign was in America. Near me. At a rally to bring back the hostages.

Not even close to the same thing


I understand why you didn't link it now Jaf

It's embarrassing what a ****ing joke the UN HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL is.

Lol at taking what they say at all seriously


by jalfrezi P

Doesn't look like the Israeli ambassador Tzipi Hotovely is going to be universally welcome during his visit to Scotland this week (obviously the sign is fake but the sentiment won't be):

Obviously the sign is fake but you post it anyway to fit your anti Israel propoganda


by metsandfinsfan P

Obviously the sign is fake but you post it anyway to fit your anti Israel propoganda

The road sign is a well known Scottish meme that's adapted to whomever they don't want to visit and you'll see it all over the internet with different text.

I was posting that it's a symbol of the lack of affection among the Scots for Israel now.


by metsandfinsfan P

I understand why you didn't link it now Jaf

It's embarrassing what a ****ing joke the UN HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL is.

Lol at taking what they say at all seriously

Can you read? I just said it's all from wiki. Have you heard of wikipedia?


So Mexico now has a Jewish president. What's the over/under in days on Mexico somehow being Nazi?


by metsandfinsfan P

The sign was in America. Near me. At a rally to bring back the hostages.

Not even close to the same thing

Seems pretty similar to me regardless of your proximity.


by 5 south P

Seems pretty similar to me regardless of your proximity.

To each his own

Have a blessed day


by rafiki P

So Mexico now has a Jewish president. What's the over/under in days on Mexico somehow being Nazi?

She's woke and her party supports Palestinian statehood, so there's a very good chance that an IDF apologist calls her that.


by rafiki P

So Mexico now has a Jewish president. What's the over/under in days on Mexico somehow being Nazi?

She is a communist though.

Same as the leader of the major leftist party in Italy is a Jew but she doesn't get insulted too much for it, as she is very leftist (also a lesbian so more intersectional points to defend her).

As much as it looks like a racial issue (and it is for some people), in many places as I tried to explain a while ago it's the very simple left v right cultural civil war with Israel as the proxy of american capitalist imperialism and palestine as the proxy of socialism


by Luciom P

She is a communist though.

Same as the leader of the major leftist party in Italy is a Jew but she doesn't get insulted too much for it, as she is very leftist (also a lesbian so more intersectional points to defend her).

As much as it looks like a racial issue (and it is for some people), in many places as I tried to explain a while ago it's the very simple left v right cultural civil war with Israel as the proxy of american capitalist imper

I think most progressive liberals view it this way. But they are also way too comfortable breaking bread with Islamists who view it is a racial/religious issue.

IMO the anti-Western animus of "anti-Zionists" is an important reason to support Israel in the ideological proxy war. There is rational reasons to be critical of Israel, although if one actually cared about Palestinians there is no reason to support their 80 year political project of destroying Israel, as nothing good will come of it.

At this point there is no rational reason to support progressive leftism. It has shown itself to be an incoherent, destructive anti-civilization ideology.


by jalfrezi P

Well this makes it official.


by jalfrezi P

UN experts urge all countries to recognise Palestinian statehood

A group of UN experts have called for all countries to recognise a Palestinian state to ensure peace in the Middle East.

The experts, including the UN special rapporteur on the human rights situation in the Palestinian territories, said recognition of a Palestinian state was an important acknowledgment of the rights of the Palestinian people and their struggle towards freedom an

They can have a state. It will be called Gaza.


by chillrob P

What? Some graffitists in Israel aren't happy with the people of Gaza? What a shock!

You would think people would forgive them for their intifadas and Jihads and Martyrs and rocket attacks and paraglider attacks, and suicide bombings, and rapes and hostage taking.


by mongidig P

You would think people would forgive them for their intifadas and Jihads and Martyrs and rocket attacks and paraglider attacks, and suicide bombings, and rapes and hostage taking.

The idea is that it is a mistake to consider the totality of Gaza residents responsible for those acts.

Hamas is oppressive and terroristical with Palestinians as well


by jalfrezi P

Doesn't look like the Israeli ambassador Tzipi Hotovely is going to be universally welcome during his visit to Scotland this week (obviously the sign is fake but the sentiment won't be):

Boy are these angry folks gonna be surprised when they find out Tzipi is a women.


by Luciom P

The idea is that it is a mistake to consider the totality of Gaza residents responsible for those acts.

Hamas is oppressive and terroristical with Palestinians as well

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, probably a terrorist. Look at the seething hate from these people in these riots around the world. Look at what is being taught in their schools. Parents happily send their kids to Hamas summer camp. Listen to their words "From the river to the sea". There is a reason they cover their faces.


by mongidig P

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, probably a terrorist. Look at the seething hate from these people in these riots around the world. Look at what is being taught in their schools. Parents happily send their kids to Hamas summer camp. Listen to their words "From the river to the sea". There is a reason they cover their faces.

Man Hamas uses the same violence against Jews and against Palestinians who disagree with them. It's a terrorist group governing a territory dictatorially. They even decide who eats and who doesn't.


by rafiki P

So Mexico now has a Jewish president. What's the over/under in days on Mexico somehow being Nazi?

Several thousand (until one of your far right wingers gets in).


by mongidig P

They can have a state. It will be called Gaza.

How about a state comprising Gaza, the West Bank and something connecting them?

btw you never did link me to the part of your long video that you claimed showed the violent pro-Palestine demo on the streets of London.


Once in a while I run into a regional stat that stuns me. This is such a stat

According to the Egyptian Family Health Survey (EFHS) 2021, 86 percent of Egyptian married women between the ages of 15 and 49 have undergone FGM (Female genital mutilation), 74 percent of whom by doctors.

That is WILD. I didn't realize Egypt was Islamizing as fast as it was. That's a trajectory to be the next Somalia if their economy keeps regressing at the present pace. Over 4 in 5 married women and rising. I heard 80% mentioned in a podcast and just had to go look for myself. I can't believe 80% was slightly low.


by jalfrezi P

How about a state comprising Gaza, the West Bank and something connecting them?

btw you never did link me to the part of your long video that you claimed showed the violent pro-Palestine demo on the streets of London.


The people of the West Bank voted fatah
The people of gaza voted hamas

Neither will allow more electronions

Who is in charge of this theoretical state?


East coast and West coast voted Dem, the people in the middle voted GOP. Who is in charge of this theoretical state and what about the electronions?


by rafiki P

Once in a while I run into a regional stat that stuns me. This is such a stat

According to the Egyptian Family Health Survey (EFHS) 2021, 86 percent of Egyptian married women between the ages of 15 and 49 have undergone FGM (Female genital mutilation), 74 percent of whom by doctors.

That is WILD. I didn't realize Egypt was Islamizing as fast as it was. That's a trajectory to be the next Somalia if their economy keeps regressing at the present

In somalia it's 98% iirc.

And I was called a racist pointing out that this alone should be enough to completely ban immigration from that country.


by jalfrezi P

East coast and West coast voted Dem, the people in the middle voted GOP. Who is in charge of this theoretical state and what about the electronions?

You realize that unlike the USA, the current territories that would make up the state of Palestine under some plans disagree among themselves about who is the proper ruler right?


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