President Joe Biden

President Joe Biden

Right now, we need VP Biden, we need him to step down and drop out so Bernie sanders can save this country from this global crisis just like FDR.

A thread to debate the efficacy of a Joe Biden Presidency in the midst of a global pandemic and impending Great Recession/Depression.

Where is Joe Biden? Can he beat Trump and is he even trying to? What would a Joe Biden Presidency look like in these times? Where is he and why isn't he leading?

20 March 2020 at 09:14 PM
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by Luciom P

Biden is in a bad spot. Trump is declining as well, admittedly slower.

Situation is terrible, and we still don't even know Trump VP pick (who might very well be the president soon enough).

Good thing is the republic is so strong it can actually work fairly well with a demented POTUS in charge as it worked these years .

And a demented Biden can still be better than a semi demented Trump

better for globalism and trans kids


by wreckem713 P

better for globalism and trans kids

We fix the mutilation of minors at the state level. It's not a federal issue, and we shouldn't make it one.

Globalism is good


by Luciom P

Globalism is good

blunderful thinking


by wreckem713 P

blunderful thinking

The last super power who decided autarchic nativism was the best choice was first in the world in most things, then a few centuries later British warships arrived.

You either rule the world or sooner or later the world rules you


by Luciom P

Biden should pardon him.

Btw I haven't followed the case close but I don't understand why it's federal charges instead of state charges

Why right wing always need to feel president and their family be above the law ?


by Montrealcorp P

Why right wing always need to feel president and their family be above the law ?

Because we don't think all people are the same


by Montrealcorp P

Ok so how is Biden , DOJ, FBI and others are so blame for trump demise vs the law if Biden isn’t a mastermind genius of anything ?

So you agree trump is responsible for his own problems ?

Well duh, obviously the people controlling Biden are organising everything behind the scenes. Biden's only task is to try to repeat what they tell him to say and try not to fall off the stage. The guy can barely even do that. Most of the time he just looks totally bewildered.

I mean this isn't rocket science. Not sure why I have to explain everything to you like I'm talking to a little child all the time.


by wreckem713 P

if you can't see that Biden has declined, you have declined beyond repair

who is arguing that? biden hasn't declined to the point trump started from.


Some serious BDS itt


by StoppedRainingMen P

Some serious BDS itt

Biden is an historical figure in the USA, one of the most decent VPs among other things (of a very decent admin, at that).

A Senator who consistently put America first and western values first.

It's a disgrace to see him being used the way it is today (instead of allowing him a well deserved golden retirement) but I understand democrats had no better option. And he accepted this.

But it would be a violent denial of truth to claim his mental abilities are fine. They aren't.

He started so sharp that even at a significantly reduced capacity he can still deliver, at times. But he has been showing very significant signs of mental decay for years and the immense pressure of the presidency isn't helping.

And every reasonable obersever acknowledges that.

That doesn't mean that you have to vote trump.


Conservatives, aside from religious nuts, should want a Biden-esque Pres., nobody home at the top of federal govt sounds like a fantasy scenario for that worldview.

With the R Pres--there's a solid chance they make some more moves on some of that religious social conservatism the rest jump thru their aholes to say they don't really want. And more tax cuts for the elites. It's a no brainer.

Think about it 😀


by wet work P

Conservatives, aside from religious nuts, should want a Biden-esque Pres., nobody home at the top of federal govt sounds like a fantasy scenario for that worldview.

With the R Pres--there's a solid chance they make some more moves on some of that religious social conservatism the rest jump thru their aholes to say they don't really want. And more tax cuts for the elites. It's a no brainer.

Think about it 😀

Yes, at least until the 25th is used and the demoniac Harris is president.

But anyway if the Senate is republican a democrat admin is what minimize gvmnt action so it would be a good outcome


by Luciom P

Biden is an historical figure in the USA, one of the most decent VPs among other things (of a very decent admin, at that).

A Senator who consistently put America first and western values first.

It's a disgrace to see him being used the way it is today (instead of allowing him a well deserved golden retirement) but I understand democrats had no better option. And he accepted this.

But it would be a violent denial of truth to claim his mental ab

a violent denial of truth would be saying that trump is at any point better than biden in this exact same characterization. i dont think anyone is arguing that at 80 year old biden is sharper than he was at 60. but of the two he still has significantly more cognitive ability than trump.

you can tell this is true because of how vociferously the right has to try and make biden seem old through editing and manipulating videos and exaggerating circumstances like they did with the recent video of him sitting down. also with the amount of hitpieces they are paying for in the editorial boards of places like the WSJ. Sinclair just forced his hundred something local news outlets to air that WSJ editorial as if it were a legitimate news story..


similarly to you, i'm not saying you have to vote biden because he obviously has more brain working than trump does. people can vote trump for whatever reason they want, but don't lie to yourself and think he's a better fit because of cognition, just embrace the trump stuff you like.


by Slighted P

a violent denial of truth would be saying that trump is at any point better than biden in this exact same characterization. i dont think anyone is arguing that at 80 year old biden is sharper than he was at 60. but of the two he still has significantly more cognitive ability than trump.

you can tell this is true because of how vociferously the right has to try and make biden seem old through editing and manipulating videos and exaggerat

When Biden is truly himself, and he doesn't have to read the word salad written by some "progressive" 25y old y league LGBTQ diversity hire, he says something like "illegal" as a negatively charged word , at the state of the union.

Because that's what normal people think.

That's what is giving democrats a fighting chance in these elections.

He is the stalwart real American democrat who doesn't give a **** about the latest incomprehensible bullshits radicals invented.

If you ask him about how many genders there are he answers with ice cream flavours.

He stands by Israel, with no ifs and no buts, unless some "diversity hired" people write a speech to the contrary. Like every decent American does.

Normal people recognize this. But they see the signs they saw in their relatives when they started losing a step here and there. We all do. And the lost steps are more common these days.

Trump has been talking weird since 2015. He tweeted covfefe ffs. He coined unpresidential. Trump brain damage if present has always been there. He isn't decaying. He is the same bullshitter he always was.


by Luciom P

Yes, at least until the 25th is used and the demoniac Harris is president.

But anyway if the Senate is republican a democrat admin is what minimize gvmnt action so it would be a good outcome

I wouldn't get your panties in a bunch over Harris. If the black lady ends up in the hot seat we'll see the wagons circle like never before to keep her boxed in tight. In all reality it would probably be the greatest political gift the Rs have ever received in our lives.


by wet work P

I wouldn't get your panties in a bunch over Harris. If the black lady ends up in the hot seat we'll see the wagons circle like never before to keep her boxed in tight. In all reality it would probably be the greatest political gift the Rs have ever received in our lives.

I’d be careful. You’ll probably get reported for implying he wears panties


by Luciom P

The last super power who decided autarchic nativism was the best choice was first in the world in most things, then a few centuries later British warships arrived.

You either rule the world or sooner or later the world rules you

i guess this is good if you're the Putin of all of it. def a hell hole for the citizens


from yesterday:

Polls: Biden Approval Sinks to New Low, 37.4%

today his failson got convicted of some crimes


probably anyone would be better (other than hillary). yes, even kamala


by wreckem713 P

i guess this is good if you're the Putin of all of it. def a hell hole for the citizens

Chinese people didn't gain from isolationism in the 15th century. That was the example


by Luciom P

Chinese people didn't gain from isolationism in the 15th century. That was the example

thanks professor


by Dunyain P

Biden tried to give a Juneteenth speech yesterday, and it was a disaster. He has basically reached the point he cant even read off a teleprompter for a few minutes.

I have been saying this for years, but the reality is age related dementia just keeps getting progressively worse. There is no way he could go on like this 4 more years; at the pace things are going 1 more year seems optimistic.

And yes I can see Trump is on a similar progress

I missed it - did he go off script and start discussing whether it's better to die by electrocution or shark bite?


by wreckem713 P

if you can't see that Biden has declined, you have declined beyond repair

If you can't see that Trump was always a babbling idiot, you're a babbling idiot.


by chillrob P

If you can't see that Trump was always a babbling idiot, you're a babbling idiot.

I didn't mention Trump The post was about Biden... read it again


by wreckem713 P

I didn't mention Trump The post was about Biden... read it again

I did read it, and I agree that he has declined.

Now how do you feel about my proposition? You can answer it in the Trump thread if you feel that would be more appropriate.


by chillrob P

I did read it, and I agree that he has declined.

Now how do you feel about my proposition? You can answer it in the Trump thread if you feel that would be more appropriate.

what do you propose? dinner and a movie?


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